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  • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

    But the worst one is batteries. Most people now (hopefully!) know you shouldn't put batteries in your domestic waste, but only recognise batteries as the little AA cylinders rather than recognising batteries as being in little household things like toothbrushes, hearing aids, ear pods or vibrators where they're sealed in and invisible. Vapes are a huge one, and although single use vapes have been banned vapes with a recharge port at a similar price point are still being treated as single use disposable items. These cause a lot of fires in waste collection lorries when they're compacted, but also fires at waste management plants which want the fire in one place only, the kiln. So remove batteries from small electronic devices for disposal if you can, and if you can't dispose of the whole device in the battery recycling bin that every shop selling batteries should by law have available.

    So basically stick your broken sex toys in the clear plastic battery bin in Sainsburys

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    #100

    Anyway I had a brilliant day, and I love seeing people work together to do very clever things to solve problems, but we can't lose track of the fact that this isn't actually a good thing it's just the least bad option we have for disposing of waste because it's still sending greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and what we really need to be working on as a species is generating less waste to start with. The presentation also shared the depressing statistic that only 2/3 of humanity has access to any waste collection and disposal infrastructure at all, and the rest just have to deal with it themselves by burning it or dumping it around their living spaces (something I encountered in a previous life doing ecology fieldwork in The Gambia https://geekinthegambia.blogspot.com/2009/06/setsetal.html)

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    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

      Anyway I had a brilliant day, and I love seeing people work together to do very clever things to solve problems, but we can't lose track of the fact that this isn't actually a good thing it's just the least bad option we have for disposing of waste because it's still sending greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and what we really need to be working on as a species is generating less waste to start with. The presentation also shared the depressing statistic that only 2/3 of humanity has access to any waste collection and disposal infrastructure at all, and the rest just have to deal with it themselves by burning it or dumping it around their living spaces (something I encountered in a previous life doing ecology fieldwork in The Gambia https://geekinthegambia.blogspot.com/2009/06/setsetal.html)

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      #101

      But I don't want to end on a negative note because I've had an absolutely fascinating day, and I hope you've enjoyed following along too.

      I can only apologise to anyone who encountered me on my way home smelling of warm damp garbage

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      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

        But I don't want to end on a negative note because I've had an absolutely fascinating day, and I hope you've enjoyed following along too.

        I can only apologise to anyone who encountered me on my way home smelling of warm damp garbage

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        #102

        Also as a little postscript, in a facility where 95% of the staff I saw were male presenting I was impressed by the fact that there were free menstrual products in the toilets

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        • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

          @afewbugs
          Exactly that.

          They're chonky too. It's a shame they're disposable when it would be easy to set up a scheme to recycle them via Halfords or something.

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          #103

          @afewbugs
          Ironically a disposable camping gas cylinder would probably cause less damage, despite being flammable, as the pressure is less and the metal is far thinner.

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          • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

            Also as a little postscript, in a facility where 95% of the staff I saw were male presenting I was impressed by the fact that there were free menstrual products in the toilets

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            #104

            @afewbugs This was fascinating. Thank you for sharing!

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            • bashstkid@mastodon.onlineB bashstkid@mastodon.online

              @afewbugs

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              jfparis@rouge.eu.org
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              #105

              @BashStKid @afewbugs Thank you for posting this. You saved me the time searching for it

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              • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                @afewbugs
                Ironically a disposable camping gas cylinder would probably cause less damage, despite being flammable, as the pressure is less and the metal is far thinner.

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                #106

                @afewbugs
                The SIP ones are made of thick steel with a removable screw in valve. There's no reason why they can't be reused other than them being low value so no-one can be arsed.

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                • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                  But the worst one is batteries. Most people now (hopefully!) know you shouldn't put batteries in your domestic waste, but only recognise batteries as the little AA cylinders rather than recognising batteries as being in little household things like toothbrushes, hearing aids, ear pods or vibrators where they're sealed in and invisible. Vapes are a huge one, and although single use vapes have been banned vapes with a recharge port at a similar price point are still being treated as single use disposable items. These cause a lot of fires in waste collection lorries when they're compacted, but also fires at waste management plants which want the fire in one place only, the kiln. So remove batteries from small electronic devices for disposal if you can, and if you can't dispose of the whole device in the battery recycling bin that every shop selling batteries should by law have available.

                  So basically stick your broken sex toys in the clear plastic battery bin in Sainsburys

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                  #107

                  @afewbugs there was a big fire at the Waste Recycling plant down in Bermonsey, London on Monday. They are still investigating what started it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't down to batteries. This was my local recycling centre when we lived in London. Needless to say not very accessible to domestic users if you didn't have a car or use of a van.

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vyky7w9wwo

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                  • jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.ukJ jamesb@fedi.duckduckpigeon.co.uk

                    @afewbugs
                    The SIP ones are made of thick steel with a removable screw in valve. There's no reason why they can't be reused other than them being low value so no-one can be arsed.

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                    #108

                    @afewbugs
                    Actually I'm surprised they didn't come out of the pile - they used to have a big magnet to remove the ferrous waste for recycling.

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                    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                      Also as a little postscript, in a facility where 95% of the staff I saw were male presenting I was impressed by the fact that there were free menstrual products in the toilets

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                      #109

                      @afewbugs I love the fediverse 😉

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                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                        @marjolica it's a lovely ride beside the water up from St Davids, and completely flat 😊

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                        #110

                        @afewbugs hopefully you didn't get too wet.

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                        • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                          Good morning Mastodon! Remember when you were in primary school and went on school trips to places teachers though were important or free, and retained nothing from them except for who was sick on whom on the way there? Now you're older and nerdier did you ever think "Actually it might be really interesting to visit a major piece of civic infrastructure and learn how it works?" Just me? Well I was in luck today because the University sustainability team has organised a tour of #Exeter Energy Recovery Facility in #MarshBarton, where all our non-recyclable rubbish ends up.

                          https://www.viridor.co.uk/energy/energy-recovery-facilities/exeter-erf/

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                          #111

                          @afewbugs oh superb, I wonder when the next openday is....

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                          • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                            Ferrous metals get pulled out by an electromagnet. Non ferrous metals melt into these weird modern art type sculptures that clog up the pipes and are the reason the plant has to be periodically shut down for maintenance to remove them. So I guess the moral is don't put metal in your non recyclable waste, but if you're going to only put ferrous metal?

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                            #112

                            @afewbugs I once wiped a couple of hard drives by putting them in a bonfire. We now have some pretty ace Xmas tree decorations.

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                            • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                              Anyway I had a brilliant day, and I love seeing people work together to do very clever things to solve problems, but we can't lose track of the fact that this isn't actually a good thing it's just the least bad option we have for disposing of waste because it's still sending greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and what we really need to be working on as a species is generating less waste to start with. The presentation also shared the depressing statistic that only 2/3 of humanity has access to any waste collection and disposal infrastructure at all, and the rest just have to deal with it themselves by burning it or dumping it around their living spaces (something I encountered in a previous life doing ecology fieldwork in The Gambia https://geekinthegambia.blogspot.com/2009/06/setsetal.html)

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                              #113

                              @afewbugs Indeed. Only a mild 40 years ago in #EX6 my parents' local thing was fling it into the old quarry.

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                              • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                But the worst one is batteries. Most people now (hopefully!) know you shouldn't put batteries in your domestic waste, but only recognise batteries as the little AA cylinders rather than recognising batteries as being in little household things like toothbrushes, hearing aids, ear pods or vibrators where they're sealed in and invisible. Vapes are a huge one, and although single use vapes have been banned vapes with a recharge port at a similar price point are still being treated as single use disposable items. These cause a lot of fires in waste collection lorries when they're compacted, but also fires at waste management plants which want the fire in one place only, the kiln. So remove batteries from small electronic devices for disposal if you can, and if you can't dispose of the whole device in the battery recycling bin that every shop selling batteries should by law have available.

                                So basically stick your broken sex toys in the clear plastic battery bin in Sainsburys

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                                #114

                                @afewbugs thanks for the advice, I will.

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                                • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                                  @afewbugs hopefully you didn't get too wet.

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                                  #115

                                  @marjolica just soggy enough for my clothes to absorb plenty of rubbish smell 😂

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                                  • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                    Good morning Mastodon! Remember when you were in primary school and went on school trips to places teachers though were important or free, and retained nothing from them except for who was sick on whom on the way there? Now you're older and nerdier did you ever think "Actually it might be really interesting to visit a major piece of civic infrastructure and learn how it works?" Just me? Well I was in luck today because the University sustainability team has organised a tour of #Exeter Energy Recovery Facility in #MarshBarton, where all our non-recyclable rubbish ends up.

                                    https://www.viridor.co.uk/energy/energy-recovery-facilities/exeter-erf/

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                                    #116

                                    @afewbugs they’re amazing places, aren’t they? I work at Loughborough uni, and our sustainability team organised a similar trip of our local incinerator/generation site. It was so interesting and informative, with some really eye-opening facts and figures

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                                    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                      Also as a little postscript, in a facility where 95% of the staff I saw were male presenting I was impressed by the fact that there were free menstrual products in the toilets

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                                      #117

                                      @afewbugs and good ones too, TOTM are excellent quality

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                                      • witewulf@cyberplace.socialW witewulf@cyberplace.social

                                        @afewbugs they’re amazing places, aren’t they? I work at Loughborough uni, and our sustainability team organised a similar trip of our local incinerator/generation site. It was so interesting and informative, with some really eye-opening facts and figures

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                                        #118

                                        @WiteWulf they really are!

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                                        • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                          Waste is then collected from the pit using this giant claw and dropped into the hopper feeding the kiln

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                                          #119

                                          @afewbugs

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