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  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

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    #14

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission my knowledge is at least 10/15 years old, but this might be not your bank’s stupid requirement, it’s one of Visa’s or Mastercard’s. I had to be certified by Visa/Mastercad/Amex to do eft interfaces, not by banks. And when specific transactions were declined I had to contact specific departments and read pages of docs till I find the clause that says exactly the opposite than they were telling me for several days…

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    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      jdrm@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jdrm@social.linux.pizzaJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission use this in other platforms such as Linux phones (PostmarketOS, UBTouch, SailfishOS...) is science fiction.

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      • ivansanchez@mastodon.socialI ivansanchez@mastodon.social

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

        greatlaketrout@noc.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

        Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

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        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          pizzaclick@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission

          Is this "EU Login app" the following:

          > The EU Login app is developed by the European Commission to facilitate your day-to-day Multi-factor authentication for many EU applications and services.

          from: https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/eu-login-mobile-application_en

          ?

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          • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

            max@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @energisch_ @jdelacueva @EUCommission It's not that they don't know, they just don't care about minorities.

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            • bluishgreen@mastodon.socialB bluishgreen@mastodon.social

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

              lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

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              • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

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                #20

                @LukefromDC @jdelacueva @EUCommission It does not relate to that, using EU portals is mostly for applying for grants/research funding or some business services. I only really use to apply for funding. I don't have experience with other services but it is not related to banking or accessing basic services.

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                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21

                  @jdelacueva mmm, install GPS (oldest version) then remove all permissions and cut all internet permissions (no background no wifi. So no data to GPS by doing this.. Then install ur EU app.

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                  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    phil@newsie.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #22

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                    Would it be possible to install Aurora Store on your LineageOS phone instead of Google Play Store?

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                    • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                      divverent@misskey.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23
                      @energisch_@troet.cafe @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Next time they will ask for Internet Explorer and 800x600.
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                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        melissawm@pynews.com.brM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #24

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission olha o que vc tava falando hoje mais cedo @cadusilva , não é só aqui 🙃

                        cadusilva@bolha.oneC 1 Reply Last reply
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                        • melissawm@pynews.com.brM melissawm@pynews.com.br

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission olha o que vc tava falando hoje mais cedo @cadusilva , não é só aqui 🙃

                          cadusilva@bolha.oneC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #25

                          @melissawm @jdelacueva @EUCommission os governos à mercê de empresas malignas estadunidenses, e arrastando os cidadãos.

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                          • phil@newsie.socialP phil@newsie.social

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                            Would it be possible to install Aurora Store on your LineageOS phone instead of Google Play Store?

                            gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #26

                            @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              B This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #27

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission File a complain, and use as much sarcasm as possible.

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                              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

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                                zsapi@mastodon.social
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                                #28

                                @EUCommission
                                Hey there EU commission. As a Hungarian citizen I must ask, could we not do this? This is a short sighted and arbitrary limitation that does not add to security but strengthens our dependence on the US.

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                                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  asltf@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                  asltf@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #29

                                  @jdelacueva the @EUCommission needs to mandate opening up mobile Phone manufacturers to third party integrity verification Services (and fund initial european companies to bootstrap them), so security related apps don't need to rely on Google/Apple integrity services

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                                  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    antoniovr@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    antoniovr@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #30

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                    I will try out. So far i can still log in with user password (perhaps it depends on the European portal)

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                                    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #31

                                      @jdelacueva mandatory for doing what?

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                                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        tfardet@scicomm.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #32

                                        @jdelacueva yeah... it's not great. I had to buy a YubiKey to get 2FA without Google when accessing @EUCommission portals

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                                        • antoniovr@mastodon.socialA antoniovr@mastodon.social

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                          I will try out. So far i can still log in with user password (perhaps it depends on the European portal)

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                                          #33

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission i thought you could set up a totp but i see the only way is to install that app

                                          So far i will keep on using just user and password.

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