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  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

    @impactology

    The basis of comparison matters though

    AI for example is used to devalue human expertise. Wage suppression is part of it, but also valuation & performance

    We used to be compared to other people with the better education, connections, people skills, personality, sexual attraction, wealth etc

    Now, on top of that humans are being compared & evaluated based on a machine or algorithm

    Something that works 24×7 without food, water, sleep, distractions, boredom, or human contact

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    #3

    @Npars01 Yeah I agree, what do you think is the solution forward if AI is here to stay and it becomes ubiquitous

    What do you think should be that small unit of practice one can repeat daily to get better at even with AI use, that will always hold value and amplify our expertise rather than decrease it

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    • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

      @Npars01 Yeah I agree, what do you think is the solution forward if AI is here to stay and it becomes ubiquitous

      What do you think should be that small unit of practice one can repeat daily to get better at even with AI use, that will always hold value and amplify our expertise rather than decrease it

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      #4

      @impactology

      AI is like a crutch you get addicted to using, long after the broken leg is healed

      Something that weakens, never strengthens

      AI is built on stolen intellectual property, it can never be better than its origins. It can't create original work, only copy other's work

      As #pluralistic describes it, it's spicy autocomplete

      Overreliance on such tools means people forget how to spell on their own. They make obvious grammatical errors because they're not really doing the writing

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        @impactology

        AI is like a crutch you get addicted to using, long after the broken leg is healed

        Something that weakens, never strengthens

        AI is built on stolen intellectual property, it can never be better than its origins. It can't create original work, only copy other's work

        As #pluralistic describes it, it's spicy autocomplete

        Overreliance on such tools means people forget how to spell on their own. They make obvious grammatical errors because they're not really doing the writing

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        #5

        @Npars01 Sure, so what can be done about it? Assume the technology is here to stay, and its use becomes ubiquitous even in job tasks, workflows and duties to get paid how should one adapt to its use?

        Its a crutch, spicy autocomplete, its bad yes, it weakens us, atrophies our cognitive abilities okay and yet its forced upon us so we have to figure out a way to use it that doesn't weaken but strengthen us.

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        • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

          @Npars01 Sure, so what can be done about it? Assume the technology is here to stay, and its use becomes ubiquitous even in job tasks, workflows and duties to get paid how should one adapt to its use?

          Its a crutch, spicy autocomplete, its bad yes, it weakens us, atrophies our cognitive abilities okay and yet its forced upon us so we have to figure out a way to use it that doesn't weaken but strengthen us.

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          #6

          @Npars01 basically no point in crying over spilled milk

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          • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

            @Npars01 basically no point in crying over spilled milk

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            #7

            @impactology

            My prediction?

            The fossil fuel cash funding AI will dry up.

            OPEC & Russia will have laundered sufficient money through Silicon Valley.
            The flight of capital will move on to something real like automated warfare or state surveillance platforms with guaranteed government contracts & a constant cash flow. It'll make AI too expensive.

            The data centers won't get built because the speculators will move elsewhere.

            Bosses will abandon AI implementation because the ROI is too poor.

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              @impactology

              My prediction?

              The fossil fuel cash funding AI will dry up.

              OPEC & Russia will have laundered sufficient money through Silicon Valley.
              The flight of capital will move on to something real like automated warfare or state surveillance platforms with guaranteed government contracts & a constant cash flow. It'll make AI too expensive.

              The data centers won't get built because the speculators will move elsewhere.

              Bosses will abandon AI implementation because the ROI is too poor.

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              #8

              @Npars01 My prediction?

              Enterprises will figure out a way to make it as small in scope and deterministic as possible to protect margins, equivalent to sprinkling salt or seasoning on an almost cooked dish.

              They will figure out a way to make token usage more efficient, Tokens saved would be the new KPI

              https://mastodon.social/@impactology/115900103407671547

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              • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

                @Npars01 My prediction?

                Enterprises will figure out a way to make it as small in scope and deterministic as possible to protect margins, equivalent to sprinkling salt or seasoning on an almost cooked dish.

                They will figure out a way to make token usage more efficient, Tokens saved would be the new KPI

                https://mastodon.social/@impactology/115900103407671547

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                #9

                @Npars01 So for example reusing existing prompts that are tested for cost and reliability, middleware solutions that help you make your prompts precise and thinking explicit, for example a friend is making a tool that elicits designers to think of the structure (IA) of the application, so that all the thinking is done by them before hand and then it outputs a prompt

                https://typmo.com/

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                • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

                  @Npars01 Yeah I agree, what do you think is the solution forward if AI is here to stay and it becomes ubiquitous

                  What do you think should be that small unit of practice one can repeat daily to get better at even with AI use, that will always hold value and amplify our expertise rather than decrease it

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                  #10

                  @impactology @Npars01 Kindness to other people. Everybody needs to practice this and it is something AI will never understand.

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                  • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

                    @impactology @Npars01 Kindness to other people. Everybody needs to practice this and it is something AI will never understand.

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                    #11

                    @meltedcheese @Npars01

                    Agreed! GenZ especially needs to learn this, very foul mouthed they are becoming

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                    • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

                      @meltedcheese @Npars01

                      Agreed! GenZ especially needs to learn this, very foul mouthed they are becoming

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                      #12

                      @impactology @meltedcheese

                      AI has found a few niches.

                      1. Stock market manipulation

                      "Markets are full of predatory trading algorithms. They’ve evolved to hunt in packs." William Gibson

                      2. Election meddling
                      3. Automated disinformation
                      4. Union busting
                      5. Malign influence campaigns
                      6. Jailbreaking IP
                      7. Surveillance capitalism
                      8. Price fixing & rent fixing
                      9. Monopolization

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        @impactology

                        My prediction?

                        The fossil fuel cash funding AI will dry up.

                        OPEC & Russia will have laundered sufficient money through Silicon Valley.
                        The flight of capital will move on to something real like automated warfare or state surveillance platforms with guaranteed government contracts & a constant cash flow. It'll make AI too expensive.

                        The data centers won't get built because the speculators will move elsewhere.

                        Bosses will abandon AI implementation because the ROI is too poor.

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                        #13

                        @Npars01 agree with this. Its primary use will be the imposition of surveillance and oppression, which will be much in demand as the reality of a future with less affordable energy and resources bites down on distracted polities. At some point though that falls over too as the supply chains for it become impossible to sustain.

                        So it is most definitely not “here to stay”, along with much of modernity

                        @impactology

                        https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115711731587842209

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                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                          @impactology @meltedcheese

                          AI has found a few niches.

                          1. Stock market manipulation

                          "Markets are full of predatory trading algorithms. They’ve evolved to hunt in packs." William Gibson

                          2. Election meddling
                          3. Automated disinformation
                          4. Union busting
                          5. Malign influence campaigns
                          6. Jailbreaking IP
                          7. Surveillance capitalism
                          8. Price fixing & rent fixing
                          9. Monopolization

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                          #14

                          @Npars01 @meltedcheese

                          For businesses its really simple to judge its value : if it saves more money than it costs to use it, otherwise dump it

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                          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                            @Npars01 agree with this. Its primary use will be the imposition of surveillance and oppression, which will be much in demand as the reality of a future with less affordable energy and resources bites down on distracted polities. At some point though that falls over too as the supply chains for it become impossible to sustain.

                            So it is most definitely not “here to stay”, along with much of modernity

                            @impactology

                            https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115711731587842209

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                            #15

                            @urlyman @Npars01

                            Its here to stay as long as VCs are okay with burning their cash on it, seems like they have a lot to be okay with running on loss making AI products

                            https://www.a16z.news/p/we-raised-15b-why

                            https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/07/anthropic-funding-term-sheet-valuation.html

                            They have a comfortable runway to change workplace habits, practices and hiring for the next five years.

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                            • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

                              @urlyman @Npars01

                              Its here to stay as long as VCs are okay with burning their cash on it, seems like they have a lot to be okay with running on loss making AI products

                              https://www.a16z.news/p/we-raised-15b-why

                              https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/07/anthropic-funding-term-sheet-valuation.html

                              They have a comfortable runway to change workplace habits, practices and hiring for the next five years.

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                              #16

                              @impactology capital evaporated in 2008. It will do so again

                              @Npars01

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                              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                @impactology @meltedcheese

                                AI has found a few niches.

                                1. Stock market manipulation

                                "Markets are full of predatory trading algorithms. They’ve evolved to hunt in packs." William Gibson

                                2. Election meddling
                                3. Automated disinformation
                                4. Union busting
                                5. Malign influence campaigns
                                6. Jailbreaking IP
                                7. Surveillance capitalism
                                8. Price fixing & rent fixing
                                9. Monopolization

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                                #17

                                @Npars01 @impactology Automated trading on various markets makes use of AI. I learned a bit about this when I had consulted for a major investment house on their AI tech. They told me 11% of all trades were automatic. It is very complicated to explain how it worked, but it was extremely alarming to me because there were no effective guardrails to prevent emergent escalation effects and market collapse. This was over 10 years ago so maybe it is safer, but I don’t think so.

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                                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                  @impactology capital evaporated in 2008. It will do so again

                                  @Npars01

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                                  @urlyman @Npars01 By then the damage will be done, people can't stop their lives and wait for that. You have to live and adapt

                                  Already recruiters and hiring mangers are clueless on evaluating skills, its going to get even worse when they insist on evaluating AI tool use. Ones who already are senior level don't have to worry because they already have a track record and prestige, ones that are entering the field now are scrambling

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                                  • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

                                    @Npars01 @meltedcheese

                                    For businesses its really simple to judge its value : if it saves more money than it costs to use it, otherwise dump it

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                                    @impactology @Npars01 There are some domains where decision-making requires processing massive amounts of data and/or require decisions in fractions of a second. People cannot handle this work, they can’t even be in the loop. These are the problem domains most suited to AI-based automation. The value depends a lot on what the problem is that AI is solving. There is no question AI is delivering value well above its cost. That means it will be adopted more and more widely. No doubt in my mind.

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                                      @urlyman @Npars01 By then the damage will be done, people can't stop their lives and wait for that. You have to live and adapt

                                      Already recruiters and hiring mangers are clueless on evaluating skills, its going to get even worse when they insist on evaluating AI tool use. Ones who already are senior level don't have to worry because they already have a track record and prestige, ones that are entering the field now are scrambling

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                                      @impactology I’m lucky in that I don’t because I’m in my 60s. My generation and the one after me is pumping a huge river of shit on young people. I hope they find ways to stay out of its strongest currents, because submitting to them will wash them away

                                      @Npars01

                                      https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115528012100649771

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                                      • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

                                        @impactology @Npars01 There are some domains where decision-making requires processing massive amounts of data and/or require decisions in fractions of a second. People cannot handle this work, they can’t even be in the loop. These are the problem domains most suited to AI-based automation. The value depends a lot on what the problem is that AI is solving. There is no question AI is delivering value well above its cost. That means it will be adopted more and more widely. No doubt in my mind.

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                                        @meltedcheese @Npars01

                                        Manufacturing, logistics, aviation, food safety and finance right? For example Import-export trade compliance software for shipping?

                                        https://mastodon.social/@impactology/115912577302179967

                                        Or any of these domains below?

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                                        • impactology@mastodon.socialI impactology@mastodon.social

                                          @urlyman @Npars01 By then the damage will be done, people can't stop their lives and wait for that. You have to live and adapt

                                          Already recruiters and hiring mangers are clueless on evaluating skills, its going to get even worse when they insist on evaluating AI tool use. Ones who already are senior level don't have to worry because they already have a track record and prestige, ones that are entering the field now are scrambling

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                                          @impactology @urlyman @Npars01 being senior holds no weight if you aren’t toeing the line

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