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RFK Jr has no scientific training.

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  • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

    Which brings me to RFK Jr. Because the reverse of that is also true. You do not want someone running a scientific agency like the HHS who has been trained to persuade you of things that he believes without any consideration for whether they are actually true.

    seancasten@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    All this may sound very philosophical, but when you put true believers in charge of science, people die. If you think bad weather is caused by witches, people die. If you think AIDS is God bringing vengeance on the LGBT community, people die.

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    • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

      All this may sound very philosophical, but when you put true believers in charge of science, people die. If you think bad weather is caused by witches, people die. If you think AIDS is God bringing vengeance on the LGBT community, people die.

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      #11

      And if you slow the deployment of vaccines that have kept people from getting measles, polio, hepatitis and countless other communicable diseases, people will die. Not because RFK Jr. is evil. But because he is a true believer who is totally unqualified for his job.

      seancasten@mastodon.socialS nshrubs@mstdn.socialN 2 Replies Last reply
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      • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

        And if you slow the deployment of vaccines that have kept people from getting measles, polio, hepatitis and countless other communicable diseases, people will die. Not because RFK Jr. is evil. But because he is a true believer who is totally unqualified for his job.

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        #12

        The danger however comes when we confuse his title for his expertise. "Secretary of Health Kennedy says ___" gives the air of legitimacy. Far better to say "Heroin addict Kennedy", "Man who eats road kill and has a brain worm", "Harvard drug dealer" or even "Nuzzi's ex boyfriend".

        seancasten@mastodon.socialS curtadams@urbanists.socialC vatvslpr@c.imV theorangetheme@en.osm.townT 4 Replies Last reply
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        • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

          The danger however comes when we confuse his title for his expertise. "Secretary of Health Kennedy says ___" gives the air of legitimacy. Far better to say "Heroin addict Kennedy", "Man who eats road kill and has a brain worm", "Harvard drug dealer" or even "Nuzzi's ex boyfriend".

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          #13

          Not to be mean. But because all of those things do a better job of attuning the public to whatever he is about to say next. And it's the best way to ensure that the kooky shit he says doesn't get any more people killed. /fin

          bluedot@left-bank.netB legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL rahafjomah05@mastodon.socialR 3 Replies Last reply
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          • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

            The danger however comes when we confuse his title for his expertise. "Secretary of Health Kennedy says ___" gives the air of legitimacy. Far better to say "Heroin addict Kennedy", "Man who eats road kill and has a brain worm", "Harvard drug dealer" or even "Nuzzi's ex boyfriend".

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            #14

            @SeanCasten I like "Secretary Brainworm".

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            • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

              Not to be mean. But because all of those things do a better job of attuning the public to whatever he is about to say next. And it's the best way to ensure that the kooky shit he says doesn't get any more people killed. /fin

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              #15

              @SeanCasten

              But he is also evil. He refuses to take responsibility for the harm his actions have done to other people, and that's a pretty good definition of evil.

              #RFK

              sidhewolf@mastodon.socialS sauc3@hachyderm.ioS pattykimura@beige.partyP 3 Replies Last reply
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              • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                Political training also doesn't seek truth. You learn to persuade. You learn to understand what people believe and perhaps to shift that belief. But it is not, at core, a truth seeking exercise, at least not at the level of the individual politician.

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                #16

                @SeanCasten Very similar to the Salesman "profession". Say whatever is needed to make the sale. Withhold facts, make things up that sound true.

                And when so many parents' incomes depend on this type of "saying things you don't even believe" as profession, it's not surprising that schools to not teach kids well to identify liars.

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                • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                  The danger however comes when we confuse his title for his expertise. "Secretary of Health Kennedy says ___" gives the air of legitimacy. Far better to say "Heroin addict Kennedy", "Man who eats road kill and has a brain worm", "Harvard drug dealer" or even "Nuzzi's ex boyfriend".

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                  #17

                  @SeanCasten
                  "Health influencer" is the contemporary description of RFK Jr.'s real expertise. He's basically a salesman who sells people on an allegedly healthy lifestyle and associated lifestyle products.

                  Trump has hired a ton of influencers rather than people with real expertise. Hegseth is a defense influencer, Ka$h Patel is a legal influencer, Dr. Oz is a health influencer, etc. Not too surprising, since Trump is basically an influencer himself.

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                  • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                    Not to be mean. But because all of those things do a better job of attuning the public to whatever he is about to say next. And it's the best way to ensure that the kooky shit he says doesn't get any more people killed. /fin

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                    #18

                    @SeanCasten

                    Not to be mean.

                    I mean, I think it's okay to be mean to bad people. Yeah, calling out Kennedy's deficiencies shouldn't be done primarily to be mean, but bullying a bad person seems to me like a perfectly fine secondary objective.

                    We didn't bully Dubya, or Cheney, or Reagan into ragequitting politics, and look where being polite to villains got us.

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                    • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                      And if you slow the deployment of vaccines that have kept people from getting measles, polio, hepatitis and countless other communicable diseases, people will die. Not because RFK Jr. is evil. But because he is a true believer who is totally unqualified for his job.

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                      #19

                      @SeanCasten Sorry, but he is evil. Because of his twisted ideology, babies are dying & kids are dying. Plus he supports a truly evil administration who mass murders school children in bombings, separates children from families, & runs concentration camps.

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                      • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                        RFK Jr has no scientific training. He's a history major with a law degree who worked as an environmental advocate but has never spent any meaningful time doing science, or understanding how science is done. This isn't "an alternative scientific view". It's just kooky opinions. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2083907234405269638?s=20

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                        #20

                        @SeanCasten

                        But he can tell you how much the cocaine got stepped-on just by smell.

                        JrBob is still a junkie. And he's killing Americans and spreading disease.

                        No
                        More
                        Kennedys
                        In
                        America

                        That name is verbotten.

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                        • legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.alL legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al

                          @SeanCasten

                          Not to be mean.

                          I mean, I think it's okay to be mean to bad people. Yeah, calling out Kennedy's deficiencies shouldn't be done primarily to be mean, but bullying a bad person seems to me like a perfectly fine secondary objective.

                          We didn't bully Dubya, or Cheney, or Reagan into ragequitting politics, and look where being polite to villains got us.

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                          #21

                          @Legit_Spaghetti @SeanCasten

                          It is absolutely fine to be "mean" to a man who is deliberately harming people. I don't care what excuse they give, the GOP is about harming people. I truly believe they get off on it.

                          RFK Jr. is dangerous not because of his background but because HE WANTS TO HURT PEOPLE. And he does not care who he kills or harms.

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                          • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

                            @SeanCasten

                            But he is also evil. He refuses to take responsibility for the harm his actions have done to other people, and that's a pretty good definition of evil.

                            #RFK

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                            #22

                            @BlueDot @SeanCasten homie just got finished telling you that politicians don’t necessarily get at the exact truth, and he’s a scientist he’s not gonna say the word evil if he can help it 😆💀

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                            • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

                              @SeanCasten

                              But he is also evil. He refuses to take responsibility for the harm his actions have done to other people, and that's a pretty good definition of evil.

                              #RFK

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                              #23

                              @BlueDot @SeanCasten

                              I agree. It is evil to cause the return of childhood illness we had all but eradicated because of a gut feeling. Or he was convinced by liars and grifters.

                              Politicians are, at very least, not supposed to actively harm the communities they are representing. In a perfect world, they might actually make things better. But doing things like the health sec has done are evil, and our society is drastically worse as a result of RFK Jr.

                              I can appreciate that OP is a scientist and wants to avoid using the word evil. But in this instance, it is applicable. It's also important to call out evil when we see it. There have thus far been zero consequences for the monsters ruining society, and that is just not alright with me.

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                              • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                RFK Jr has no scientific training. He's a history major with a law degree who worked as an environmental advocate but has never spent any meaningful time doing science, or understanding how science is done. This isn't "an alternative scientific view". It's just kooky opinions. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2083907234405269638?s=20

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                                #24

                                @SeanCasten This is cute. You can't watch the video, it goes to X. You need an account there to watch it.

                                Oh well. I doubt I give a shit what comes out this shit stain's mouth anyway.

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                                • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                  RFK Jr has no scientific training. He's a history major with a law degree who worked as an environmental advocate but has never spent any meaningful time doing science, or understanding how science is done. This isn't "an alternative scientific view". It's just kooky opinions. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2083907234405269638?s=20

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                                  #25

                                  @SeanCasten The bigger problem is that a majority of U.S. senators sat in a room with that guy, asked him questions for several days, and concluded that the most ridiculous, unqualified person possible should be in charge of the nation’s health department.

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                                  • seancasten@mastodon.socialS seancasten@mastodon.social

                                    RFK Jr has no scientific training. He's a history major with a law degree who worked as an environmental advocate but has never spent any meaningful time doing science, or understanding how science is done. This isn't "an alternative scientific view". It's just kooky opinions. https://x.com/atrupar/status/2083907234405269638?s=20

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                                    #26

                                    @SeanCasten I do not click X links.

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                                    • vatvslpr@c.imV vatvslpr@c.im

                                      @SeanCasten
                                      "Health influencer" is the contemporary description of RFK Jr.'s real expertise. He's basically a salesman who sells people on an allegedly healthy lifestyle and associated lifestyle products.

                                      Trump has hired a ton of influencers rather than people with real expertise. Hegseth is a defense influencer, Ka$h Patel is a legal influencer, Dr. Oz is a health influencer, etc. Not too surprising, since Trump is basically an influencer himself.

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                                      #27

                                      @VATVSLPR @SeanCasten A snake oil salesman.

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                                      • nshrubs@mstdn.socialN nshrubs@mstdn.social

                                        @SeanCasten Sorry, but he is evil. Because of his twisted ideology, babies are dying & kids are dying. Plus he supports a truly evil administration who mass murders school children in bombings, separates children from families, & runs concentration camps.

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                                        #28

                                        @Nshrubs @SeanCasten If the ends are evil, and the means are evil, it’s evil.

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                                        • ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG ggmcbg@mstdn.plus

                                          @SeanCasten

                                          But he can tell you how much the cocaine got stepped-on just by smell.

                                          JrBob is still a junkie. And he's killing Americans and spreading disease.

                                          No
                                          More
                                          Kennedys
                                          In
                                          America

                                          That name is verbotten.

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                                          #29

                                          @GGMcBG @SeanCasten No more Kennedys, no more Bushes, no more Clintons and no more Trumps. We already have a shitshow, our tendency to create dynasties will only make that worse.

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