What the actual fuck.

[troed@swecyb.com]

@sundogplanets I'd still like journalists to start asking questions when "data centers in space" come up. Questions like:

-"How will you cool them?"

I really can't imagine there's a whole business plan drawn up thinking "space is really cold" will solve it but I'm starting to doubt ...

[ppulfer@mastodon.ie]

@sundogplanets, why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

For example, datacenters are being constructed with massive discounts by councils/municipals and in turn, water and electricity bill of residential area gets higher to pay that offset of costs.

[ids1024@mathstodon.xyz]

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @sundogplanets Plus the big question of how you cool a GPU datacenter surrounded by the vacuum of space.

But then, you probably don't really need to know anything about datacenters to realize that moving them into space is just going to make every aspect of them more difficult and expensive...

[hmig@front-end.social]

@sundogplanets - so much for ever seeing stars again

[ehproque@neopaquita.es]

@PalmAndNeedle @sundogplanets luckily the satellites aren't big enough to wipe us out when they fall, but they may make impossible to put anything in orbit once enough of them crash against each other

[utf_7@mastodon.social]

@troed @sundogplanets afaik the only way to cool in space is by radiation. there is no air so no convection. judging from my noob knowledge, i think cooling in space is much more complicated than on earth. because you have only 1 of the 3 possible heat transfers

[davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets

But, until Musk-Kessler Syndrome destroys all access to orbit for many decades, he'll give the world access to his "A.I". that will empower users to *checks notes* generate non-consensual pornography of women and children.

[utf_7@mastodon.social]

@troed @sundogplanets damn, should be relpied to @ppulfer

>why is this a problem? Datacenters in space would eliminate a lot of problems like access to free solar energy, cooling, etc.

[kingtor@frontrange.co]

@sundogplanets why wouldn't the FCC robber-stamp it? Isn't their job to rubber-stamp shortsighted companies' plans?

[estelle@mstdn.social]

@sundogplanets ....uhhhhh.

okay, plan b, china builds as many nuclear reactors as it takes to laser broom earth orbit clean, and then we have about 40 years to figure out how to stop the aluminum oxides from destroying the ozone layer,

[ppulfer@mastodon.ie]

@utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, no worries. Indeed, a much harder challenge but image the outcome if we would normalize this?

Tbf, I think we're not there yet and the announcement is more like a distraction but I'd welcome the actual technological outcome.

[tfiebig@wybt.net]

@sundogplanets For my own sanity i haven't read the news yet, so no clue what you are making fun of here... Did Elon typo Kessler Syndrome again.

[utf_7@mastodon.social]

@ppulfer @troed @sundogplanets tbh, i cannot imagine a useful outcome. mind to share your thoughts on the benefits?

[ppulfer@mastodon.ie]

@utf_7 @troed @sundogplanets, my thoughts are on the biggest resource consumption of a datacenter: Cooling and Energy, which is very taxing right now on our existing capabilities.

We'd shift from constant CO2 emitting energy consumption on earth to solar in space and move away from using fresh water for cooling, which is becoming more and more scarce.

[lexinova@cyberplace.social]

@sundogplanets of course they will allow.

They want this to be free of ALL privacy law, as Space is not regulated.

[debe@mastodon.nz]

@PalmAndNeedle And I can't say I'm looking forward to the future damage to our ozone layer ... Again. @sundogplanets @ehproque

[glitzersachen@hachyderm.io]

@sundogplanets

Haha. Perhaps they mixed up Kardashev and Kessler...

[jackemled@furry.engineer]

@sundogplanets I suggest we all become amateur radio astronomers but instead of receiving we transmit. We agree on a satellite to fry every day until starlink costs too much to keep running.

Obviously we can't do this. Not everyone can afford a radio transmission setup & a satellite antenna, & the FCC in the USA & the equivalents in other countries would be very mad, but I wish we could do this.

[syntaxxor@sk.girlthi.ng]

@sundogplanets@mastodon.social And for data centers, no less. These aren't providing some useful service, they're just running out of room to put their stupid AI data centers so they're trying to put them in orbit. What a fucking joke

How will they even cool them??? Cooling tech in space is notoriously difficult as the only way to remove heat from a body in space is to radiate it off. And that's extremely slow. Aren't they already having enough trouble cooling their data centers inside an atmosphere?

I'm just honestly stunned at the continuing level of destructive stupidity these people show. Can't wait for a million space-borne data centers to blot out the stars in order to provide... checks notes technology that still won't be able to provide correct information.

[glitzersachen@hachyderm.io]

@nev @sundogplanets

There is such a thing as not thinking enough.

And good SF doesn't hand-waves "technology" out of thin air either.