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  3. 🚨 New research from ETH Zurich has found that popular password manager's zero-knowledge encryption claims don't fully hold up if their servers are compromised.

🚨 New research from ETH Zurich has found that popular password manager's zero-knowledge encryption claims don't fully hold up if their servers are compromised.

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  • privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computerP privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computer

    ✅ Dashlane & Bitwarden promptly issued fixes.

    ❌ LastPass did not issue a fix and stated: "our own assessment of these risks may not fully align with the severity ratings assigned by the ETH Zürich team."

    💡In 2022, LastPass experienced a breach that impacted 1.6 million users due to inadequately strong technical and security measures within their infrastructure.

    The best time to switch from LastPass was yesterday; the second best is today. 🗑️

    Here's what we recommend ⬇️

    #lastpass #security

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    papaexmatrikulatus@mastodon.social
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    #7

    @privacyguides
    Do you have another source for Bitwarden havin fixed the issues? If i am not mistaking, i can't see where they say something explicit about Bitwarden fixing these issues in the linked article.

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    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

      @privacyguides This sounds like the kind of thing that cannot just be "fixed". As far as I can tell, *all three were lying* about their servers being dumb storage without access to your secrets. This is a problem of vendor integrity not a technical problem.

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      #8

      @dalias @privacyguides Self-host, some things are better of self hosted. And a password manager is one of them. And better without any internet access, your devices can sync when they are on your local network.

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      • h0m3@mastodon.socialH h0m3@mastodon.social

        @dalias @privacyguides Self-host, some things are better of self hosted. And a password manager is one of them. And better without any internet access, your devices can sync when they are on your local network.

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        #9

        @h0m3 @privacyguides It doesn't even need self-hosting. It just needs the storage backend to be a pure content-agnostic storage backend for opaque encrypted data, not having some control channel interaction that puts the vendor in a privileged position and locks you in to using their cloud infrastructure.

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        • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

          @h0m3 @privacyguides It doesn't even need self-hosting. It just needs the storage backend to be a pure content-agnostic storage backend for opaque encrypted data, not having some control channel interaction that puts the vendor in a privileged position and locks you in to using their cloud infrastructure.

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          #10

          @dalias @h0m3 @privacyguides KeePass is the best option if you don't need cloud sync

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          • helloclippy@techhub.socialH helloclippy@techhub.social

            @dalias @h0m3 @privacyguides KeePass is the best option if you don't need cloud sync

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            #11

            @helloclippy @h0m3 @privacyguides Cloud sync is good, but only if it's *your choice* of storage and the storage provider doesn't have backdoor access to the password manager.

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            • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

              @helloclippy @h0m3 @privacyguides Cloud sync is good, but only if it's *your choice* of storage and the storage provider doesn't have backdoor access to the password manager.

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              #12

              @dalias @helloclippy @privacyguides Yes. Bitwarden allows you to cloud sync to your instance, even using an alternative server application like vaultwarden. Thats the most important feature for me and i would abandon them if they choose to remove it in the future.

              "Its open source but you can only connect to our proprietary servers" is a no-go to me

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              • privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computerP privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computer

                🚨 New research from ETH Zurich has found that popular password manager's zero-knowledge encryption claims don't fully hold up if their servers are compromised. ⚠️

                🔑 LastPass, Dashlane & Bitwarden were identified as being affected, this is significant because cloud password managers commonly claim that their user's data would be unaffected if they were compromised. 👾

                #privacy #security #passwordmanager

                https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/password_managers/

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                #13

                @privacyguides same old story and yet ppl still not convinced to local only password managers like keepassxc...

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                • P papaexmatrikulatus@mastodon.social

                  @privacyguides
                  Do you have another source for Bitwarden havin fixed the issues? If i am not mistaking, i can't see where they say something explicit about Bitwarden fixing these issues in the linked article.

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                  #14

                  @Papaexmatrikulatus @privacyguides

                  https://bitwarden.com/blog/security-through-transparency-eth-zurich-audits-bitwarden-cryptography/

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                  • timisch@mastodon.socialT timisch@mastodon.social

                    @Papaexmatrikulatus @privacyguides

                    https://bitwarden.com/blog/security-through-transparency-eth-zurich-audits-bitwarden-cryptography/

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                    #15

                    @timisch @privacyguides Thank you!

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                    • privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computerP privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computer

                      ✅ Dashlane & Bitwarden promptly issued fixes.

                      ❌ LastPass did not issue a fix and stated: "our own assessment of these risks may not fully align with the severity ratings assigned by the ETH Zürich team."

                      💡In 2022, LastPass experienced a breach that impacted 1.6 million users due to inadequately strong technical and security measures within their infrastructure.

                      The best time to switch from LastPass was yesterday; the second best is today. 🗑️

                      Here's what we recommend ⬇️

                      #lastpass #security

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                      #16

                      @privacyguides
                      Lastpass is an absolutely AWFUL company.

                      After LogMeIn got their hands on them the prices skyrocketed from $12 to $24 to $36 to $48 a year for their premium plan.

                      I switched to Bitwarden, who have kept their premium plan at just $10 a year, for many years now.

                      With ownership of Lastpass now in the hands of not one, but two investment companies, one really has to question where Lastpass's priorities lie.

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                      • privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computerP privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computer

                        📍 Secure local password managers

                        ➡️ For more info visit our site: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/passwords/#local-storage

                        #passwordmanager #security #privacyguides

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                        #17

                        @privacyguides keep assium

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                        • privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computerP privacyguides@mastodon.neat.computer

                          📍 Secure local password managers

                          ➡️ For more info visit our site: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/passwords/#local-storage

                          #passwordmanager #security #privacyguides

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                          #18

                          @privacyguides what do you recommend for self-hosting a password manager?

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                          • h0m3@mastodon.socialH h0m3@mastodon.social

                            @dalias @helloclippy @privacyguides Yes. Bitwarden allows you to cloud sync to your instance, even using an alternative server application like vaultwarden. Thats the most important feature for me and i would abandon them if they choose to remove it in the future.

                            "Its open source but you can only connect to our proprietary servers" is a no-go to me

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                            #19

                            @h0m3 @dalias @helloclippy @privacyguides

                            Bitwarden has EU based servers which I would recommend.

                            The cost for a year of service is very good value IMHO 🙂

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                            • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                              @h0m3 @dalias @helloclippy @privacyguides

                              Bitwarden has EU based servers which I would recommend.

                              The cost for a year of service is very good value IMHO 🙂

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                              #20

                              @simonzerafa @h0m3 @helloclippy @privacyguides Where the servers are located doesn't matter if the encryption is done right.

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                              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                @simonzerafa @h0m3 @helloclippy @privacyguides Where the servers are located doesn't matter if the encryption is done right.

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                                #21

                                @dalias @h0m3 @helloclippy @privacyguides

                                Regulations might say otherwise. Also Data Sovereignity 😉

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                                • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                                  @dalias @h0m3 @helloclippy @privacyguides

                                  Regulations might say otherwise. Also Data Sovereignity 😉

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                                  #22

                                  @simonzerafa @h0m3 @helloclippy @privacyguides If encryption is being used right they aren't storing any personal data, just meaningless random bits. There is a risk of loss of availability but no risk of exposure or misuse.

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                                  • eist@hsnl.socialE eist@hsnl.social

                                    @privacyguides what do you recommend for self-hosting a password manager?

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                                    #23

                                    KeePassXC would be our recommendation for an offline password manager. You can see all our recommendations here: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/passwords/#local-storage

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