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⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

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  • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

    @FediTips It has become routine for viral posts to rally a mob into blocking entire instances—thousands of accounts—over a few bad interactions. While this may feel empowering for in-groups or those with large followings, it fosters a toxic environment. In this case, a dependable, useful, and constructive instance is being demonized and ostracized.

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    #34

    @quattrocchi

    It's not a dependable instance. Its software isn't up to date, there may be bugs that put its users in danger.

    The admin hasn't posted in 2.5 years, that is not a sign of dependability.

    Quite often instances where the admin stops communicating for years may vanish without warning.

    "Brigading isn't punishing a negligent admin "

    It's not about punishing anyone, it's warning people that they are on an abandoned instance. Would you rather they weren't warned?

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    • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

      @toriver @FediTips A Mastodon instance is a PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION. There are laws around the world addressing common-carriers or gatekeeping regulation of digital platforms.

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      #35

      @quattrocchi

      No one is stopping anyone using mastodon.cloud.

      All that is being suggested is people might want to move off it because it seems to be no longer maintained or moderated.

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      • noondlyt@hellions.cloudN noondlyt@hellions.cloud

        @FediTips

        Is there a way to search (easily 😬 ) my follows and followers for their respective instances?

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        #36

        @noondlyt

        Not as far as I know, sorry.

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        • konakona@social.linux.pizzaK konakona@social.linux.pizza

          @FediTips the best thing to do with those kind of account is to ignore them and not give them the attention. If you share this for everyone to see you are giving them the attention they want. But yeah unmoderated instance can be pretty bad.

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          #37

          @konakona

          If you let people spread lies about vulnerable minorities, it leads to real world discrimination, violence and murder.

          How does someone ignore it when people are physically attacking them in the street?

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

            If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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            #38

            @FediTips thanks for this post and associated tips. Have thought about moving server before but this post pushed me to act. Thank you.

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            • edgeofstretch@cupoftea.socialE edgeofstretch@cupoftea.social

              @FediTips thanks for this post and associated tips. Have thought about moving server before but this post pushed me to act. Thank you.

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              #39

              @edgeofstretch

              Thanks for taking the time to write these kind words, it's really motivating to hear these posts are useful!

              Good luck on the new server 🙂

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

                If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                #40

                p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

                This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

                It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

                If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

                  This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

                  It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

                  If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                  #41

                  @FediTips Thing that gets me, is hosting's quite the little chunk of change, to be all "Ho-hum, was I running a server somewhere?"

                  So possibly - working as intended? *shrug*

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                  • anhedonichedonist@pdx.socialA anhedonichedonist@pdx.social

                    @FediTips Thing that gets me, is hosting's quite the little chunk of change, to be all "Ho-hum, was I running a server somewhere?"

                    So possibly - working as intended? *shrug*

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                    #42

                    @AnhedonicHedonist

                    Yeah, that leads into a weird tale about money:

                    https://social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/115032817032174204

                    Does make one wonder where the money is coming from and why they seemed to disappear after making a super-large donation.

                    And even if they couldn't be bothered to moderate, why would they stop updating the software? There are plenty of hosts who will do updates automatically for a small monthly fee.

                    None of it makes sense.

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

                      This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

                      It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

                      If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                      #43

                      @FediTips I’ve been thinking of moving. Can you direct me to the instructions?

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                      • volcano@nerdculture.deV volcano@nerdculture.de

                        @FediTips I’ve been thinking of moving. Can you direct me to the instructions?

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                        #44

                        @volcano

                        Yes! There are simple non-technical step-by-step instructions here:

                        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                        If you want any help with this please ask 🙂

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

                          This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

                          It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

                          If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                          #45

                          @FediTips just moved from there to another server, following your instructions (which I found very clear and easy to follow).

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                          • nxskok@cupoftea.socialN nxskok@cupoftea.social

                            @FediTips just moved from there to another server, following your instructions (which I found very clear and easy to follow).

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                            #46

                            @nxskok

                            That's really great to hear, and thanks very much for the feedback 🙏

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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              @konakona

                              If you let people spread lies about vulnerable minorities, it leads to real world discrimination, violence and murder.

                              How does someone ignore it when people are physically attacking them in the street?

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                              #47

                              @FediTips my point was that if you are a popular account and share their post you are actually giving them a lot more exposure. Which will only make it worse. Its like free publicity. I don't think you had any bad intentions sharing it. I am just saying its probably not really the best thing to do but its good to point out unmoderated instances because those have bigger issues than racist trolls.

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                              • konakona@social.linux.pizzaK konakona@social.linux.pizza

                                @FediTips my point was that if you are a popular account and share their post you are actually giving them a lot more exposure. Which will only make it worse. Its like free publicity. I don't think you had any bad intentions sharing it. I am just saying its probably not really the best thing to do but its good to point out unmoderated instances because those have bigger issues than racist trolls.

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                                #48

                                @konakona

                                If I don't give at least one example, some people will assume I'm exaggerating or overdoing it when saying it's racism. They'll say they've never seen anything like that and demand proof.

                                I tried to pick one example that was most clearly racist.

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

                                  If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                                  #49

                                  @FediTips not sure the best place to report this, it looks the moving from/to settings are now under Account. I used your guide yesterday to change instances, it was very helpful!

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                                  • neontapir@retro.pizzaN neontapir@retro.pizza

                                    @FediTips not sure the best place to report this, it looks the moving from/to settings are now under Account. I used your guide yesterday to change instances, it was very helpful!

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                                    #50

                                    @neontapir

                                    Fine to report errors anywhere, thanks for taking the time! 👍

                                    Which step(s) of the guide are you referring to?

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                                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                      @neontapir

                                      Fine to report errors anywhere, thanks for taking the time! 👍

                                      Which step(s) of the guide are you referring to?

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                                      #51

                                      @FediTips steps 7 and 10. It looks like Account isn’t under Preferences any more, it’s now a top level item.

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                                      • neontapir@retro.pizzaN neontapir@retro.pizza

                                        @FediTips steps 7 and 10. It looks like Account isn’t under Preferences any more, it’s now a top level item.

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                                        #52

                                        @neontapir

                                        How are you getting to "Account" without clicking "Preferences"? (Genuine question!)

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          @neontapir

                                          How are you getting to "Account" without clicking "Preferences"? (Genuine question!)

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                                          #53

                                          @FediTips oh, I see, my mistake. When I click Preferences on the main page, I see an item on the left labeled Preferences, and I was expecting Account to be under that. Truth is, time had passed since I’d navigated to the Preferences page, so I forgot that’s how I got there. Nothing to see here. 🙂

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