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  • edgeofstretch@cupoftea.socialE edgeofstretch@cupoftea.social

    @FediTips thanks for this post and associated tips. Have thought about moving server before but this post pushed me to act. Thank you.

    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #39

    @edgeofstretch

    Thanks for taking the time to write these kind words, it's really motivating to hear these posts are useful!

    Good luck on the new server 🙂

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

      If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #40

      p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

      This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

      It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

      If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

      anhedonichedonist@pdx.socialA volcano@nerdculture.deV nxskok@cupoftea.socialN elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE 4 Replies Last reply
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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

        This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

        It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

        If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

        anhedonichedonist@pdx.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #41

        @FediTips Thing that gets me, is hosting's quite the little chunk of change, to be all "Ho-hum, was I running a server somewhere?"

        So possibly - working as intended? *shrug*

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        • anhedonichedonist@pdx.socialA anhedonichedonist@pdx.social

          @FediTips Thing that gets me, is hosting's quite the little chunk of change, to be all "Ho-hum, was I running a server somewhere?"

          So possibly - working as intended? *shrug*

          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #42

          @AnhedonicHedonist

          Yeah, that leads into a weird tale about money:

          https://social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/115032817032174204

          Does make one wonder where the money is coming from and why they seemed to disappear after making a super-large donation.

          And even if they couldn't be bothered to moderate, why would they stop updating the software? There are plenty of hosts who will do updates automatically for a small monthly fee.

          None of it makes sense.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

            This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

            It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

            If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

            volcano@nerdculture.deV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #43

            @FediTips I’ve been thinking of moving. Can you direct me to the instructions?

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            • volcano@nerdculture.deV volcano@nerdculture.de

              @FediTips I’ve been thinking of moving. Can you direct me to the instructions?

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              #44

              @volcano

              Yes! There are simple non-technical step-by-step instructions here:

              ➡️ https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

              If you want any help with this please ask 🙂

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

                This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

                It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

                If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                nxskok@cupoftea.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #45

                @FediTips just moved from there to another server, following your instructions (which I found very clear and easy to follow).

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                • nxskok@cupoftea.socialN nxskok@cupoftea.social

                  @FediTips just moved from there to another server, following your instructions (which I found very clear and easy to follow).

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                  #46

                  @nxskok

                  That's really great to hear, and thanks very much for the feedback 🙏

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @konakona

                    If you let people spread lies about vulnerable minorities, it leads to real world discrimination, violence and murder.

                    How does someone ignore it when people are physically attacking them in the street?

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                    #47

                    @FediTips my point was that if you are a popular account and share their post you are actually giving them a lot more exposure. Which will only make it worse. Its like free publicity. I don't think you had any bad intentions sharing it. I am just saying its probably not really the best thing to do but its good to point out unmoderated instances because those have bigger issues than racist trolls.

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                    • konakona@social.linux.pizzaK konakona@social.linux.pizza

                      @FediTips my point was that if you are a popular account and share their post you are actually giving them a lot more exposure. Which will only make it worse. Its like free publicity. I don't think you had any bad intentions sharing it. I am just saying its probably not really the best thing to do but its good to point out unmoderated instances because those have bigger issues than racist trolls.

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                      #48

                      @konakona

                      If I don't give at least one example, some people will assume I'm exaggerating or overdoing it when saying it's racism. They'll say they've never seen anything like that and demand proof.

                      I tried to pick one example that was most clearly racist.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        p.p.s. A lot of legitimate non-problematic accounts joined mastodon.cloud when it was still moderated. I'm guessing most of the ones still on there are there because they don't realise what has happened.

                        If you know someone still on mastodon.cloud, you might want to politely let them know what the situation is and suggest they move. I'm sure most will be horrified about what's happening and keen to move to a different server. If they need help moving, the guide is at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                        neontapir@retro.pizzaN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #49

                        @FediTips not sure the best place to report this, it looks the moving from/to settings are now under Account. I used your guide yesterday to change instances, it was very helpful!

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                        • neontapir@retro.pizzaN neontapir@retro.pizza

                          @FediTips not sure the best place to report this, it looks the moving from/to settings are now under Account. I used your guide yesterday to change instances, it was very helpful!

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                          #50

                          @neontapir

                          Fine to report errors anywhere, thanks for taking the time! 👍

                          Which step(s) of the guide are you referring to?

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            @neontapir

                            Fine to report errors anywhere, thanks for taking the time! 👍

                            Which step(s) of the guide are you referring to?

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                            #51

                            @FediTips steps 7 and 10. It looks like Account isn’t under Preferences any more, it’s now a top level item.

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                            • neontapir@retro.pizzaN neontapir@retro.pizza

                              @FediTips steps 7 and 10. It looks like Account isn’t under Preferences any more, it’s now a top level item.

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                              #52

                              @neontapir

                              How are you getting to "Account" without clicking "Preferences"? (Genuine question!)

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                @neontapir

                                How are you getting to "Account" without clicking "Preferences"? (Genuine question!)

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                                #53

                                @FediTips oh, I see, my mistake. When I click Preferences on the main page, I see an item on the left labeled Preferences, and I was expecting Account to be under that. Truth is, time had passed since I’d navigated to the Preferences page, so I forgot that’s how I got there. Nothing to see here. 🙂

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                                • neontapir@retro.pizzaN neontapir@retro.pizza

                                  @FediTips oh, I see, my mistake. When I click Preferences on the main page, I see an item on the left labeled Preferences, and I was expecting Account to be under that. Truth is, time had passed since I’d navigated to the Preferences page, so I forgot that’s how I got there. Nothing to see here. 🙂

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                                  #54

                                  @neontapir

                                  Aaah, yeah, I see what you mean!

                                  It is sort of confusing that there's a main "Preferences" option in the general interface but then also a "preferences" section on the Preferences page.

                                  Maybe they should rename it "Settings" for one and "Preferences" for the other?

                                  Thanks for this, it is really useful to hear how people see the interface from their point of view.

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    @quattrocchi

                                    It's not a dependable instance. Its software isn't up to date, there may be bugs that put its users in danger.

                                    The admin hasn't posted in 2.5 years, that is not a sign of dependability.

                                    Quite often instances where the admin stops communicating for years may vanish without warning.

                                    "Brigading isn't punishing a negligent admin "

                                    It's not about punishing anyone, it's warning people that they are on an abandoned instance. Would you rather they weren't warned?

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                                    #55

                                    @FediTips I would have preferred a warning that there’s no official contingency plan if a large instance is abandoned—users are left to safeguard their data and reputations against norm enforcing vigilantes. This seems at odds with the promise that Mastodon and ActivityPub are people-centric.

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                                    • quattrocchi@mastodon.cloudQ quattrocchi@mastodon.cloud

                                      @FediTips I would have preferred a warning that there’s no official contingency plan if a large instance is abandoned—users are left to safeguard their data and reputations against norm enforcing vigilantes. This seems at odds with the promise that Mastodon and ActivityPub are people-centric.

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                                      #56

                                      @quattrocchi

                                      The stuff being posted on mastodon.cloud is vile, utterly disgusting sewage. It is saying certain racial groups are subhuman, it is saying that skin colour reflects intellectual ability.

                                      If mastodon.cloud are unwilling or unable to moderate ethnic hatred, even when it's been reported to them by many people over several months, then they shouldn't be running an instance at all.

                                      If my instance was allowing such crap, I would want to be told about it so that I could leave.

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        ⚠️ Important headsup if you are on the server mastodon.cloud:

                                        Mastodon.cloud no longer seems to be moderated. Its admin account hasn't posted since Feb 2023, its code of conduct is blank and there are vile racists posting from there. The racists have been reported many times but their accounts are still active.

                                        Because of this, other server admins are starting to block mastodon.cloud completely.

                                        If you're on mastodon.cloud you might want to move to another server ASAP: https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                                        #57

                                        @FediTips mastodon.cloud, mstdn.jp, and pawoo.net are all run by the same entity, Sujitech LLC.

                                        All three are running outdated versions of Mastodon, but the Pawoo support team seems to have been active as recently as May.

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          p.p.p.s. Mastodon.cloud seems to be running a very out-of-date version of Mastodon's server software. This is a bad sign as it means there may be unpatched security holes etc.

                                          This lack of technical updates is another reason to leave mastodon.cloud as soon as possible.

                                          It's never clear how long unmaintained servers will continue. If it disappears without warning, it will be too late to move your account.

                                          If you want help moving, feel free to ask! Also see the guide at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                                          elduvelle@neuromatch.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #58

                                          @FediTips thanks for this! Is there really no way to transfer one's posts to the new server? That seems like a major limitation to changing servers..
                                          Sorry if this has already been asked

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