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  • fruitchypear@owo.cafeF fruitchypear@owo.cafe

    @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

    https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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    #67

    @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes ​​

    apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that

    the os should be attesting this, not the apps

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    • fruitchypear@owo.cafeF fruitchypear@owo.cafe

      @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

      https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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      #68

      @fruitchypear@owo.cafe @greatlaketrout@noc.social @IvanSanchez@mastodon.social @jdelacueva@mastodon.social this being hosted on github is cherry on top

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      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

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        #69

        @jdelacueva

        Works fine on /e/OS however...

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        • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

          @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
          I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

          From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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          #70

          @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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          • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

            @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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            #71

            @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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            • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

              @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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              #72

              @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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              • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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                #73

                @GOKUSHRM @Scofisticated if the company you work for uses Microsoft or Google enterprise software, then employees don't get a choice.

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                • guigsy@mstdn.socialG guigsy@mstdn.social

                  @GOKUSHRM @Scofisticated if the company you work for uses Microsoft or Google enterprise software, then employees don't get a choice.

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                  #74

                  @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, 😔, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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                  • rzr@mastodon.socialR rzr@mastodon.social

                    https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

                    Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

                    Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

                    I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

                    Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

                    Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

                    Inputs welcome anyway

                    @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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                    #75

                    @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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                    • urp74@mastodon.socialU urp74@mastodon.social

                      @jdelacueva

                      Works fine on /e/OS however...

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                      #76

                      @URP74 @jdelacueva thanks to microg. Still connects to google 😑

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                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

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                        #77

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission This is unacceptable.

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                        • lambert@rheinneckar.socialL lambert@rheinneckar.social

                          @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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                          #78

                          @lambert @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                          I'm involved in some discussion on this matter. The short answer is that the app is not mandatory: one can use other factors. However, I only heard of few people that have figured out how to use the alternative factors.

                          Best,
                          Robert

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                          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

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                            #79

                            maybe this helps:

                            https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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                            • faxe@flokinet.socialF faxe@flokinet.social

                              maybe this helps:

                              https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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                              #80

                              @faxe it does. I testet it on /e/OS which hat microg on board.

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                              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

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                                #81

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission A couple of years ago, I complained to the portal's assistance service about this very issue, and this is the reply I got.

                                With SMS now not any more an option, we are really left only with FIDO2 keys.

                                It is unclear why they can't use established OTP standards compliant with many different platforms, and, if they really, *really* need to re-invent the wheel, why they must release their solution only through US-based platforms that come with debatable ToS.

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                                • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                  @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, 😔, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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                                  #82

                                  @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                                  I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                                  I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                                  • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                                    @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                                    I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                                    I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                                    #83

                                    @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                                    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                      @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes ​​

                                      apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that

                                      the os should be attesting this, not the apps

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                                      #84

                                      @lumi Pretending that this is a good use for DRM has been a grift thirty years in the making.

                                      https://web.archive.org/web/20141129042827/https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2016.wss

                                      @jdelacueva @IvanSanchez @EUCommission @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout

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                                      • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                        @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                                        #85

                                        @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                                        • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                                          @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                                          #86

                                          @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                                          2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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