There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
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@drwho @DeliaChristina yikes. I thought it was bad that my AP US history class never made it to Vietnam
@irene @DeliaChristina In the sci.tech track at my high school, European history was required. US history was for the manufacturing.tech/votech track. We cleared the entire textbook that year but it stopped at 1850.ev.
What I know about everything after WW1 I know from my grandparents and reading books on my own time.
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@WhiteCatTamer @DeliaChristina Depends entirely on who has the knife.
Then there's the "a Nazi brought a knife to a gunfight" scenario...
Finally, ther's the scenario where all the passengers jump the Nazi after one person starts it, fearing being stabbed one at a time otherwise
@LukefromDC @DeliaChristina I see we’re collecting charges today. That’s nice.
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@gwenverbsnouns @drwho @DeliaChristina yeah we were taught in elementary school about the holocaust because we read the diaries of Anne Frank.
@irene @gwenverbsnouns @DeliaChristina We read it in eighth grade (after one or two families tried to get the book banned and got their hands slapped soundly), but that was pretty much it. Nothing in the way of actual history talked about it.
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@LukefromDC @DeliaChristina I see we’re collecting charges today. That’s nice.
@WhiteCatTamer @DeliaChristina So long as the Nazi starts the physical action self defense is 100% legal. Any weapon you can legally carry will be legal to use against any opponent who draws on you first too. Finally, NYC's gun laws are on borrowed time with the current SCOTUS.
One special case: please DO NOT USE pepper spray in a subway car or more generally indoors! It will affect other people than the target.
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@WhiteCatTamer @DeliaChristina So long as the Nazi starts the physical action self defense is 100% legal. Any weapon you can legally carry will be legal to use against any opponent who draws on you first too. Finally, NYC's gun laws are on borrowed time with the current SCOTUS.
One special case: please DO NOT USE pepper spray in a subway car or more generally indoors! It will affect other people than the target.
@LukefromDC @DeliaChristina Source: Trust Me Bro, LLC
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@irene @DeliaChristina Wait, they taught it in school?
Like, actually talked about World War 2 in class?
@drwho @irene @DeliaChristina Yes. A considerable portion of our history classes were about WW2 and the rise of fascism. At least 15 years ago when I went to school.
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@LukefromDC @DeliaChristina Source: Trust Me Bro, LLC
@WhiteCatTamer @DeliaChristina Well, I do make a point of getting to cover after any fight, win or lose. In cities I normally travel by bike not subway and thus can beat the police response time.
Getting a warrant and bringing charges after a clear-cut, camera-proven case of self defense is a much higher hurdle than a snap-judgement, on the scene arrest. Not impossible as the cops and Nazis are allied here of course, but a much higher threshold.
Finally, there is also the case where the Nazi does NOT take the bait and won't throw the first punch. In that case, you have shown them to be a big talker in front of a subway car (or a sidewalk) full of spectators.
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina Sometimes they're intentionally doing provocation bullshit like this with someone filming it to try and paint themselves as the victims and get people arrested and shit.
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina Gonna assume what went down was that he was maybe using weaselly terms for his eugenics nonsense so people would tolerate him if he's not just spitting intense hate. Guessing also that people are distracted by other stuff, they haven't got time for him in terms of hearing him out or beating him unconscious at least. Point being that people are just not going to fight, they're tired and frazzled enough that they won't bother and there's also the fear of getting vanished by the local gestapo. Not making excuses for them but I understand when people have learned helplessness, they feel like they don't have the power to fight back so they make their own excuses for being avoidant. Doesn't help that their propaganda is so effective it's got someone they hate thinking it's a simple difference in opinion.
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@DeliaChristina ok so the other disturbing thing is that my German friends have been like, well they taught us all at school how to spot a Nazi and watch out for the rise of fascism again. But THEY DIDN’T TELL US WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
@irene @DeliaChristina Really isn't helpful when you have some people going "that's not a Nazi/fascist" because they're not doing the whole heil thing with the armband. That's a fucking Nazi, don't know what to tell you and you're making excuses for them to be a Nazi.
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina Yup! Don't be silent — Laugh 'em deranged ignorant Nazi preachers mercilessly down! 🧐
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@irene @DeliaChristina In the sci.tech track at my high school, European history was required. US history was for the manufacturing.tech/votech track. We cleared the entire textbook that year but it stopped at 1850.ev.
What I know about everything after WW1 I know from my grandparents and reading books on my own time.
@drwho the US was involved in WWII, it’s not just European history? I learned about WWII extensively in 10th grade, also went to a Sci & Tech school.
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina Someone should have started playing La Marseillaise at full volume.
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
I call it the Donahue Effect. I greatly blame assballs like him, Geraldo, Jerry, that owned daytime TV and made EVERY kind of violence and hatred and stupidity acceptable as entertainment, and conditioned generations to accept the bullshit premise that all opinions are valid, if we just spare an hour to hear them.
Even if they never watched. It spreads and sticks like jam.
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina I take every chance to post this. I also play it every chance I'm in town (lotsa proud guys around here...)
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina Systematically programmed into subjugated subservience - generation after generation.
Abusive power monopolizing root infrastructure, generation after generation.
Move or degenerate.
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@DeliaChristina
I guess all the stereotypes about NYers are BS.@dougiec3 I was going to say, in NYC?!!!
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@irene @gwenverbsnouns @DeliaChristina We read it in eighth grade (after one or two families tried to get the book banned and got their hands slapped soundly), but that was pretty much it. Nothing in the way of actual history talked about it.
@drwho Those families were probably nazis then, if you try to prevent people from learning about something bad that happened you probably want it to happen again @irene @gwenverbsnouns @DeliaChristina
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There was a video on Insta yesterday of a clean cut Nazi in a white button down and khaki pants proselytizing on a NYC train.
In any other timeline this MFer would have gotten his lights knocked out.
In *this* timeline?? Folks were silently listening to him like he was selling Amway and they were considering signing up. A young Black guy even said, Well I think everyone has to make up their own mind.
The ONLY person who was a speedbump to the Nazi's coercion was a woman yelling that he was a Nazi and he should wear his swastika armband if he's so proud of it and everyone could know who he is. The death glare he gave her...oof.
Y'all. Sitting silently and letting a literal Nazi recruit on a train is NOT how to meet this fucking moment. WTF.
@DeliaChristina I will never tell someone to risk their own safety, and given that the Trump brownshirts are everywhere, I think that's a legit risk, but yes, the only way fascists back off is if you show them they can't scare you. They show up with 50 people, you show up with 250. Way easier said than done, of course.
