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  3. France is rolling out Visio, a homegrown secure videoconferencing platform, to all government employees by 2027.

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  • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

    3/3

    HOW EASY IS IT TO MOVE FROM MICROSOFT?

    TECHNICALLY: Very feasible. Strong FOSS alternatives exist for everything:
    Windows → Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora)

    Office → OnlyOffice, LibreOffice

    Exchange/Teams → Matrix/Element, Nextcloud

    SQL Server → PostgreSQL, MariaDB

    Benefits: No per-seat licenses, data sovereignty, transparent security, longer hardware life, no forced obsolescence.

    THE REAL CHALLENGE: Organizational, not technical

    Legacy Windows-only apps & VBA macros (need rewriting or VMs)

    User retraining & change management (people lose muscle memory)

    Political will & leadership commitment (critical!)

    External partner expectations (.docx, Outlook, Teams)

    SUCCESS FACTORS (proven by Lyon & Gendarmerie):
    • Strong political backing at highest levels
    • Adequate budget & realistic timeline
    • Comprehensive training programs
    • Willingness to maintain hybrid systems during transition
    • Local/regional procurement (Lyon: 100% French contractors)

    CURRENT MOMENTUM:
    Denmark, Germany (Schleswig-Holstein), Netherlands, Italy, and Slovenia are all pursuing similar digital sovereignty initiatives through FOSS

    Bottom line: #France proves that digital sovereignty through open source works at massive scale (103K+ workstations). They're not reinventing wheels—they're making smart use of mature, proven technology with European hosting and governance.

    Lyon Register article: https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/26/lyon_leaving_microsoft/

    #OpenSource #DigitalSovereignty #Linux #FOSS #France #Lyon #PublicSector #Ubuntu #Matrix #GendBuntu #Europe #Microsoft

    (3/3)

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #8

    @i47i Technically, it's very possible but, in reality, most people don't have the intestinal fortitude to figure things out on their own without hand-holding. I've been on Linux Mint for about 3 years and still have some things on Win10 because trying to learn even minor programming is a PITA at this point in my life. Even when tools are available, eg GIMP for Affinity Photo or LibreOffice instead of MSO. converting existing systems, documents and files is often challenging.

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    • yoshi@toot.communityY yoshi@toot.community

      @i47i Technically, it's very possible but, in reality, most people don't have the intestinal fortitude to figure things out on their own without hand-holding. I've been on Linux Mint for about 3 years and still have some things on Win10 because trying to learn even minor programming is a PITA at this point in my life. Even when tools are available, eg GIMP for Affinity Photo or LibreOffice instead of MSO. converting existing systems, documents and files is often challenging.

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #9

      @Yoshi @i47i

      Valid.

      And the answer is to have helpdesk trained in hand-holding, and writing little "did you know" PSAs to publish in whatever timeline is being used from time to time.

      People don't have the attention span to take in all the little tips and tricks at one.

      Focus on big things, then add the polish in controlled increments.

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      • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

        France is rolling out Visio, a homegrown secure videoconferencing platform, to all government employees by 2027.

        The move aims to replace American tools like Teams, Zoom and Webex that currently fragment public administration communications and create security vulnerabilities.

        The platform already has 40,000 regular users and is being deployed to 200,000 agents. Major institutions like CNRS are switching over this quarter, with CNRS replacing Zoom for its 34,000 staff and 120,000 affiliated researchers by late March.

        Visio runs on French sovereign cloud infrastructure certified by ANSSI, uses AI transcription technology from French startup Pyannote, and will add real-time subtitling from French AI lab Kyutai by summer 2026. Beyond security and digital sovereignty, the switch generates real savings of about 1 million euros per year for every 100,000 users leaving paid license solutions.

        Minister David Amiel frames this as essential to protecting sensitive government data and scientific exchanges from exposure to non-European actors while supporting French tech companies.

        https://numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/ #France #Greenland #MAGA #DonaldTrump #tarrifs #France #Google #MicrosofTeams

        https://lemmus.org/post/19676136

        #Greenland #Minneapolis #ICE

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #10

        @i47i And how soon will Microsoft jump in with bribes just like they did in Munich?

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        • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

          @Yoshi @i47i

          Valid.

          And the answer is to have helpdesk trained in hand-holding, and writing little "did you know" PSAs to publish in whatever timeline is being used from time to time.

          People don't have the attention span to take in all the little tips and tricks at one.

          Focus on big things, then add the polish in controlled increments.

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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #11

          @androcat @Yoshi

          1/2

          @Yoshi @androcat

          Excellent points about hand-holding and support! Here's the reality: the cost of support staff is actually LESS than Microsoft licensing fees —and creates local employment.

          THE NUMBERS:
          Microsoft E3 (1,000 employees):
          • licensing: $432,000/year
          • Software Assurance: +$125,000/year
          • Hidden costs (license management, sprawl): +$40,000-90,000/year
          • TOTAL: $597,000 - $647,000/year

          FOSS + Support Staff Alternative:
          • Licensing: $0
          • Support staff (3-5 FTE @ $66K-90K): $200,000-350,000/year
          • Training (one-time): $50,000-100,000
          • Infrastructure: $20,000-50,000/year
          • TOTAL: $270,000-500,000/year

          *NET SAVINGS: $97,000 - $377,000/year

          Plus you get:
          - 3-5 skilled local jobs created
          - Institutional knowledge (not vendor-dependent)
          - No license audits or compliance penalties
          - Data sovereignty
          - Protection from forced upgrades

          PROVEN AT SCALE:
          French Gendarmerie (103,000+ workstations):
          • €2M/year savings in licensing alone
          • 20-year migration (2005-2024)
          • 97% migrated to open source
          • Local expertise built over time

          The "hand-holding" cost is actually an investment in self-sufficiency that pays for itself while creating employment.

          (1/2)

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          • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

            @androcat @Yoshi

            1/2

            @Yoshi @androcat

            Excellent points about hand-holding and support! Here's the reality: the cost of support staff is actually LESS than Microsoft licensing fees —and creates local employment.

            THE NUMBERS:
            Microsoft E3 (1,000 employees):
            • licensing: $432,000/year
            • Software Assurance: +$125,000/year
            • Hidden costs (license management, sprawl): +$40,000-90,000/year
            • TOTAL: $597,000 - $647,000/year

            FOSS + Support Staff Alternative:
            • Licensing: $0
            • Support staff (3-5 FTE @ $66K-90K): $200,000-350,000/year
            • Training (one-time): $50,000-100,000
            • Infrastructure: $20,000-50,000/year
            • TOTAL: $270,000-500,000/year

            *NET SAVINGS: $97,000 - $377,000/year

            Plus you get:
            - 3-5 skilled local jobs created
            - Institutional knowledge (not vendor-dependent)
            - No license audits or compliance penalties
            - Data sovereignty
            - Protection from forced upgrades

            PROVEN AT SCALE:
            French Gendarmerie (103,000+ workstations):
            • €2M/year savings in licensing alone
            • 20-year migration (2005-2024)
            • 97% migrated to open source
            • Local expertise built over time

            The "hand-holding" cost is actually an investment in self-sufficiency that pays for itself while creating employment.

            (1/2)

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            i47i@hachyderm.io
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #12

            @androcat @Yoshi

            And here's the game-changer: modern FOSS AI chatbots can automate 60-80% of Tier 1 support queries right now.

            FOSS LLM CHATBOT SOLUTIONS (Available Today):

            1. AnythingLLM (MIT license, fully open)
            • Runs ANY local LLM (no cloud/API needed)
            • Built-in RAG for documentation
            • Desktop + server deployment
            • Works on CPU or GPU
            • Cost: $0 + hardware

            2. LobeChat (Open source)
            • Multi-agent design
            • Voice interaction (TTS/STT)
            • Self-hosted, full privacy
            • Multi-device sync

            3. Open WebUI
            • Lightweight, fast
            • Ollama integration
            • Perfect for quick helpdesk queries

            BACKEND LLMs (Self-Hosted):
            • Mistral 7B / MiMo-V2-Flash: Run on consumer hardware
            • DeepSeek-V3.2: GPT-level reasoning, fully open (MIT)
            • LLaMA 4: Fine-tune on your org's support tickets

            THE MAGIC: These can be trained on:
            • Linux documentation
            • LibreOffice guides
            • Your organization's procedures
            • Historical support tickets

            RESULT:
            24/7 instant responses
            Context-aware (knows user's history)
            Handles common queries automatically
            Escalates complex issues to humans
            Zero per-query API costs
            Complete privacy (no data sent to vendors)

            REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE:
            Manufacturing company case study showed chatbot deflected 70% of password reset/basic config tickets, freeing support staff for strategic work.

            IMPLEMENTATION:
            • Phase 1 (3 months): Deploy pilot with AnythingLLM + Mistral 7B
            • Phase 2 (12 months): Scale to 60-80% Tier 1 automation
            • ROI breakeven: 6-12 months

            @androcat You're absolutely right—incremental "did you know" PSAs work. But imagine those delivered 24/7 by a chatbot that learns your patterns and proactively helps. That's available NOW with FOSS tools.

            The technology exists. The economics work. Europe's proving it at government scale. The question is: do organizations have the will to invest in long-term self-sufficiency over short-term convenience?

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            • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

              France is rolling out Visio, a homegrown secure videoconferencing platform, to all government employees by 2027.

              The move aims to replace American tools like Teams, Zoom and Webex that currently fragment public administration communications and create security vulnerabilities.

              The platform already has 40,000 regular users and is being deployed to 200,000 agents. Major institutions like CNRS are switching over this quarter, with CNRS replacing Zoom for its 34,000 staff and 120,000 affiliated researchers by late March.

              Visio runs on French sovereign cloud infrastructure certified by ANSSI, uses AI transcription technology from French startup Pyannote, and will add real-time subtitling from French AI lab Kyutai by summer 2026. Beyond security and digital sovereignty, the switch generates real savings of about 1 million euros per year for every 100,000 users leaving paid license solutions.

              Minister David Amiel frames this as essential to protecting sensitive government data and scientific exchanges from exposure to non-European actors while supporting French tech companies.

              https://numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/ #France #Greenland #MAGA #DonaldTrump #tarrifs #France #Google #MicrosofTeams

              https://lemmus.org/post/19676136

              #Greenland #Minneapolis #ICE

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #13

              @i47i @barbarakathmann

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              • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

                3/3

                HOW EASY IS IT TO MOVE FROM MICROSOFT?

                TECHNICALLY: Very feasible. Strong FOSS alternatives exist for everything:
                Windows → Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora)

                Office → OnlyOffice, LibreOffice

                Exchange/Teams → Matrix/Element, Nextcloud

                SQL Server → PostgreSQL, MariaDB

                Benefits: No per-seat licenses, data sovereignty, transparent security, longer hardware life, no forced obsolescence.

                THE REAL CHALLENGE: Organizational, not technical

                Legacy Windows-only apps & VBA macros (need rewriting or VMs)

                User retraining & change management (people lose muscle memory)

                Political will & leadership commitment (critical!)

                External partner expectations (.docx, Outlook, Teams)

                SUCCESS FACTORS (proven by Lyon & Gendarmerie):
                • Strong political backing at highest levels
                • Adequate budget & realistic timeline
                • Comprehensive training programs
                • Willingness to maintain hybrid systems during transition
                • Local/regional procurement (Lyon: 100% French contractors)

                CURRENT MOMENTUM:
                Denmark, Germany (Schleswig-Holstein), Netherlands, Italy, and Slovenia are all pursuing similar digital sovereignty initiatives through FOSS

                Bottom line: #France proves that digital sovereignty through open source works at massive scale (103K+ workstations). They're not reinventing wheels—they're making smart use of mature, proven technology with European hosting and governance.

                Lyon Register article: https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/26/lyon_leaving_microsoft/

                #OpenSource #DigitalSovereignty #Linux #FOSS #France #Lyon #PublicSector #Ubuntu #Matrix #GendBuntu #Europe #Microsoft

                (3/3)

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                #14

                @i47i I’ve just read a conversation between several Matrix users who agreed not to recommend it to non-technical users…

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                • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

                  3/3

                  HOW EASY IS IT TO MOVE FROM MICROSOFT?

                  TECHNICALLY: Very feasible. Strong FOSS alternatives exist for everything:
                  Windows → Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora)

                  Office → OnlyOffice, LibreOffice

                  Exchange/Teams → Matrix/Element, Nextcloud

                  SQL Server → PostgreSQL, MariaDB

                  Benefits: No per-seat licenses, data sovereignty, transparent security, longer hardware life, no forced obsolescence.

                  THE REAL CHALLENGE: Organizational, not technical

                  Legacy Windows-only apps & VBA macros (need rewriting or VMs)

                  User retraining & change management (people lose muscle memory)

                  Political will & leadership commitment (critical!)

                  External partner expectations (.docx, Outlook, Teams)

                  SUCCESS FACTORS (proven by Lyon & Gendarmerie):
                  • Strong political backing at highest levels
                  • Adequate budget & realistic timeline
                  • Comprehensive training programs
                  • Willingness to maintain hybrid systems during transition
                  • Local/regional procurement (Lyon: 100% French contractors)

                  CURRENT MOMENTUM:
                  Denmark, Germany (Schleswig-Holstein), Netherlands, Italy, and Slovenia are all pursuing similar digital sovereignty initiatives through FOSS

                  Bottom line: #France proves that digital sovereignty through open source works at massive scale (103K+ workstations). They're not reinventing wheels—they're making smart use of mature, proven technology with European hosting and governance.

                  Lyon Register article: https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/26/lyon_leaving_microsoft/

                  #OpenSource #DigitalSovereignty #Linux #FOSS #France #Lyon #PublicSector #Ubuntu #Matrix #GendBuntu #Europe #Microsoft

                  (3/3)

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #15

                  @i47i Microsoft SQL server hits me every time.

                  Such a unnecessary piece of technology. Why would anyone want to pay a license for THAT?!?

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                  • oceane@gotosocial.socialO oceane@gotosocial.social

                    @i47i I’ve just read a conversation between several Matrix users who agreed not to recommend it to non-technical users…

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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #16

                    @oceane

                    Yes. That's where local organisations we trust can setup ones like the one I'm using. #Matrix

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                    • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

                      3/3

                      HOW EASY IS IT TO MOVE FROM MICROSOFT?

                      TECHNICALLY: Very feasible. Strong FOSS alternatives exist for everything:
                      Windows → Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora)

                      Office → OnlyOffice, LibreOffice

                      Exchange/Teams → Matrix/Element, Nextcloud

                      SQL Server → PostgreSQL, MariaDB

                      Benefits: No per-seat licenses, data sovereignty, transparent security, longer hardware life, no forced obsolescence.

                      THE REAL CHALLENGE: Organizational, not technical

                      Legacy Windows-only apps & VBA macros (need rewriting or VMs)

                      User retraining & change management (people lose muscle memory)

                      Political will & leadership commitment (critical!)

                      External partner expectations (.docx, Outlook, Teams)

                      SUCCESS FACTORS (proven by Lyon & Gendarmerie):
                      • Strong political backing at highest levels
                      • Adequate budget & realistic timeline
                      • Comprehensive training programs
                      • Willingness to maintain hybrid systems during transition
                      • Local/regional procurement (Lyon: 100% French contractors)

                      CURRENT MOMENTUM:
                      Denmark, Germany (Schleswig-Holstein), Netherlands, Italy, and Slovenia are all pursuing similar digital sovereignty initiatives through FOSS

                      Bottom line: #France proves that digital sovereignty through open source works at massive scale (103K+ workstations). They're not reinventing wheels—they're making smart use of mature, proven technology with European hosting and governance.

                      Lyon Register article: https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/26/lyon_leaving_microsoft/

                      #OpenSource #DigitalSovereignty #Linux #FOSS #France #Lyon #PublicSector #Ubuntu #Matrix #GendBuntu #Europe #Microsoft

                      (3/3)

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #17

                      @i47i @matrix There are alternatives for ALMOST everything. What about screen readers for blind users?
                      Windows has an open source screen reader called NVDA, which can be an alternative to the closed JAWS. But the Linux one, Orca, has still a lot of issues. And blind users have very few references about pros and cons.

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                      • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

                        France is rolling out Visio, a homegrown secure videoconferencing platform, to all government employees by 2027.

                        The move aims to replace American tools like Teams, Zoom and Webex that currently fragment public administration communications and create security vulnerabilities.

                        The platform already has 40,000 regular users and is being deployed to 200,000 agents. Major institutions like CNRS are switching over this quarter, with CNRS replacing Zoom for its 34,000 staff and 120,000 affiliated researchers by late March.

                        Visio runs on French sovereign cloud infrastructure certified by ANSSI, uses AI transcription technology from French startup Pyannote, and will add real-time subtitling from French AI lab Kyutai by summer 2026. Beyond security and digital sovereignty, the switch generates real savings of about 1 million euros per year for every 100,000 users leaving paid license solutions.

                        Minister David Amiel frames this as essential to protecting sensitive government data and scientific exchanges from exposure to non-European actors while supporting French tech companies.

                        https://numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/ #France #Greenland #MAGA #DonaldTrump #tarrifs #France #Google #MicrosofTeams

                        https://lemmus.org/post/19676136

                        #Greenland #Minneapolis #ICE

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                        johnjburnsiii@kzoo.to
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #18

                        @i47i

                        #Hmmm

                        They are using a Microsoft "diagramming/drawing" tool - as videoconferencing?

                        Guessing they just named it the same. But that will certainly result in confusion.

                        🤔

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                        • johnjburnsiii@kzoo.toJ johnjburnsiii@kzoo.to

                          @i47i

                          #Hmmm

                          They are using a Microsoft "diagramming/drawing" tool - as videoconferencing?

                          Guessing they just named it the same. But that will certainly result in confusion.

                          🤔

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                          i47i@hachyderm.io
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #19

                          @JohnJBurnsIII

                          Microsoft Visio = diagramming/flowchart software (desktop application for creating technical drawings, org charts, floor plans, etc.)

                          France's "Visio" = videoconferencing platform (their sovereign alternative to Zoom/Teams)
                          This is definitely going to cause confusion, especially in international contexts. The name likely comes from:

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                          • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

                            @androcat @Yoshi

                            And here's the game-changer: modern FOSS AI chatbots can automate 60-80% of Tier 1 support queries right now.

                            FOSS LLM CHATBOT SOLUTIONS (Available Today):

                            1. AnythingLLM (MIT license, fully open)
                            • Runs ANY local LLM (no cloud/API needed)
                            • Built-in RAG for documentation
                            • Desktop + server deployment
                            • Works on CPU or GPU
                            • Cost: $0 + hardware

                            2. LobeChat (Open source)
                            • Multi-agent design
                            • Voice interaction (TTS/STT)
                            • Self-hosted, full privacy
                            • Multi-device sync

                            3. Open WebUI
                            • Lightweight, fast
                            • Ollama integration
                            • Perfect for quick helpdesk queries

                            BACKEND LLMs (Self-Hosted):
                            • Mistral 7B / MiMo-V2-Flash: Run on consumer hardware
                            • DeepSeek-V3.2: GPT-level reasoning, fully open (MIT)
                            • LLaMA 4: Fine-tune on your org's support tickets

                            THE MAGIC: These can be trained on:
                            • Linux documentation
                            • LibreOffice guides
                            • Your organization's procedures
                            • Historical support tickets

                            RESULT:
                            24/7 instant responses
                            Context-aware (knows user's history)
                            Handles common queries automatically
                            Escalates complex issues to humans
                            Zero per-query API costs
                            Complete privacy (no data sent to vendors)

                            REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE:
                            Manufacturing company case study showed chatbot deflected 70% of password reset/basic config tickets, freeing support staff for strategic work.

                            IMPLEMENTATION:
                            • Phase 1 (3 months): Deploy pilot with AnythingLLM + Mistral 7B
                            • Phase 2 (12 months): Scale to 60-80% Tier 1 automation
                            • ROI breakeven: 6-12 months

                            @androcat You're absolutely right—incremental "did you know" PSAs work. But imagine those delivered 24/7 by a chatbot that learns your patterns and proactively helps. That's available NOW with FOSS tools.

                            The technology exists. The economics work. Europe's proving it at government scale. The question is: do organizations have the will to invest in long-term self-sufficiency over short-term convenience?

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                            #20

                            @i47i @Yoshi

                            And users will hate using those AI chatbots exactly as much as they already hate the MS-based chatbots.

                            Value for money.

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                              THE PROVEN TRACK RECORD:

                              France isn't experimenting—they've been doing this successfully for 20 years. The French Gendarmerie (national police, 100,000+ employees) pioneered this approach:

                              TIMELINE:
                              • 2005: Migrated from MS Office to OpenOffice
                              • 2008: Started Ubuntu desktop deployment (GendBuntu)
                              • 2014: Majority migration complete
                              • 2024: 97% of workstations running Linux (103,164 computers!)

                              FINANCIAL IMPACT:
                              • €2 million/year in licensing cost savings
                              • Additional savings from eliminating 4,500 servers
                              • Total 2004-2008: ~€50 million saved

                              STRATEGIC INVESTMENT:
                              In October 2025, France became the FIRST national government to officially partner with the Matrix Foundation—not just using it, but funding its development and participating in strategic decisions. This ensures the protocol evolves to meet European government needs.

                              So when we say France is "building bundles," they're really packaging, hardening, and supporting mature upstream FOSS (Linux, PostgreSQL, Matrix, etc.) with French hosting, governance, and integration—not reinventing everything from scratch.

                              GendBuntu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GendBuntu

                              Gendarmerie case study: https://canonical.com/blog/la-gendarmerie-nationale-upgrades-85000-pcs-to-ubuntu-desktop-edition

                              #Matrix
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                              @i47i

                              Hey #Canada (and everyone non-US), the French police did this. What are our plans

                              "TIMELINE:
                              • 2005: Migrated from MS Office to OpenOffice
                              • 2008: Started Ubuntu desktop deployment (GendBuntu)
                              • 2014: Majority migration complete
                              • 2024: 97% of workstations running Linux (103,164 computers!)"

                              #Canada #cdnpoli #libreoffice #Linux #Ubuntu #ElbowsUp

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                              • i47i@hachyderm.ioI i47i@hachyderm.io

                                @androcat @Yoshi

                                And here's the game-changer: modern FOSS AI chatbots can automate 60-80% of Tier 1 support queries right now.

                                FOSS LLM CHATBOT SOLUTIONS (Available Today):

                                1. AnythingLLM (MIT license, fully open)
                                • Runs ANY local LLM (no cloud/API needed)
                                • Built-in RAG for documentation
                                • Desktop + server deployment
                                • Works on CPU or GPU
                                • Cost: $0 + hardware

                                2. LobeChat (Open source)
                                • Multi-agent design
                                • Voice interaction (TTS/STT)
                                • Self-hosted, full privacy
                                • Multi-device sync

                                3. Open WebUI
                                • Lightweight, fast
                                • Ollama integration
                                • Perfect for quick helpdesk queries

                                BACKEND LLMs (Self-Hosted):
                                • Mistral 7B / MiMo-V2-Flash: Run on consumer hardware
                                • DeepSeek-V3.2: GPT-level reasoning, fully open (MIT)
                                • LLaMA 4: Fine-tune on your org's support tickets

                                THE MAGIC: These can be trained on:
                                • Linux documentation
                                • LibreOffice guides
                                • Your organization's procedures
                                • Historical support tickets

                                RESULT:
                                24/7 instant responses
                                Context-aware (knows user's history)
                                Handles common queries automatically
                                Escalates complex issues to humans
                                Zero per-query API costs
                                Complete privacy (no data sent to vendors)

                                REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE:
                                Manufacturing company case study showed chatbot deflected 70% of password reset/basic config tickets, freeing support staff for strategic work.

                                IMPLEMENTATION:
                                • Phase 1 (3 months): Deploy pilot with AnythingLLM + Mistral 7B
                                • Phase 2 (12 months): Scale to 60-80% Tier 1 automation
                                • ROI breakeven: 6-12 months

                                @androcat You're absolutely right—incremental "did you know" PSAs work. But imagine those delivered 24/7 by a chatbot that learns your patterns and proactively helps. That's available NOW with FOSS tools.

                                The technology exists. The economics work. Europe's proving it at government scale. The question is: do organizations have the will to invest in long-term self-sufficiency over short-term convenience?

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                                yoshi@toot.community
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #22

                                @i47i I should have known there are AI chatbots for these sorts of "lookup" tasks. A system that can assist from simple newbie questions to more advanced users would be very helpful. The Linux world needs to better market these AI support systems. For example Linux Mint could "push" regular tips to users. I spent nearly 40 years in high tech from Radio Shack TRS-80 to huge VAX 11/780 systems but the current tech baffles me in many ways. Thanks to you and androcat for the tips.

                                @androcat

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                                • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                  @i47i @Yoshi

                                  And users will hate using those AI chatbots exactly as much as they already hate the MS-based chatbots.

                                  Value for money.

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                                  yoshi@toot.community
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #23

                                  @androcat The "hate" could be a strong aversion to not knowing how and where their data are used. At least, that's why I look askance at anything MS or any other multi-billion dollar companies.

                                  @i47i

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                                  • yoshi@toot.communityY yoshi@toot.community

                                    @androcat The "hate" could be a strong aversion to not knowing how and where their data are used. At least, that's why I look askance at anything MS or any other multi-billion dollar companies.

                                    @i47i

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                                    androcat@toot.cat
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #24

                                    @Yoshi @i47i

                                    The trick really is to make it as transparent as possible.

                                    Check if the question fits with a FAQ entry.
                                    If yes: Link to FAQ and check if that resolves.
                                    If any no: Go to ticket creation process (or live human chat if available)

                                    People absolutely hate being given the "well-meaning runaround" that LLMs excel at. It's a waste of time and everyone knows it innately.

                                    (And yes, the steps involved could just be a script, that's the general pattern for all things LLM - if they are good at it, it could be a script instead).

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                                    • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                      @Yoshi @i47i

                                      The trick really is to make it as transparent as possible.

                                      Check if the question fits with a FAQ entry.
                                      If yes: Link to FAQ and check if that resolves.
                                      If any no: Go to ticket creation process (or live human chat if available)

                                      People absolutely hate being given the "well-meaning runaround" that LLMs excel at. It's a waste of time and everyone knows it innately.

                                      (And yes, the steps involved could just be a script, that's the general pattern for all things LLM - if they are good at it, it could be a script instead).

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                                      yoshi@toot.community
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #25

                                      @androcat My take is biased by my level of understanding. I classify myself as "knows enough to be dangerous." The run around is about the same as one gets from clueless/powerless human support staff. I tried to get a refund from a human, it was a circle jerk of the first order.

                                      @i47i

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                                      • yoshi@toot.communityY yoshi@toot.community

                                        @androcat My take is biased by my level of understanding. I classify myself as "knows enough to be dangerous." The run around is about the same as one gets from clueless/powerless human support staff. I tried to get a refund from a human, it was a circle jerk of the first order.

                                        @i47i

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                                        androcat@toot.cat
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                                        #26

                                        @Yoshi

                                        Oh absolutely, but the human runaround happens because the human hasn't been empowered to perform the task (dark patterns).

                                        The runaround with LLMs happen because they don't really understand anything and so aren't able to recognize what their own limits are.

                                        If you ask them to do A, they will answer with a likely answer to someone asked to do A, "Yes, I will do that right now" - even if they do not actually have the API hookups to perform the action. A brain-dead yes-man.

                                        @i47i

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                                        • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                          @Yoshi

                                          Oh absolutely, but the human runaround happens because the human hasn't been empowered to perform the task (dark patterns).

                                          The runaround with LLMs happen because they don't really understand anything and so aren't able to recognize what their own limits are.

                                          If you ask them to do A, they will answer with a likely answer to someone asked to do A, "Yes, I will do that right now" - even if they do not actually have the API hookups to perform the action. A brain-dead yes-man.

                                          @i47i

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                                          yoshi@toot.community
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                                          #27

                                          @androcat To the end-user, a runaround is a runaround, regardless of how it came to be. For me, with some level of understanding, I'd prefer a quick answer I can "fine tune" vs a slow answer that may still flawed.

                                          @i47i

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