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  • evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Do you support nuclear power plants?

    #EvanPoll #poll

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      Do you support nuclear power plants?

      #EvanPoll #poll

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      @evan No. Nuclear power is very expensive, a technology riddled with problems and a tendency for defects, cannot compete with the alternatives and all the evidence suggests nuclear power projects don't deliver on their promises, in fact they are the best example of "the iron law of megaprojects" according to Bent Flyvbjerg - over budget, over time, under benefits, over and over again.

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        @evan No. Nuclear power is very expensive, a technology riddled with problems and a tendency for defects, cannot compete with the alternatives and all the evidence suggests nuclear power projects don't deliver on their promises, in fact they are the best example of "the iron law of megaprojects" according to Bent Flyvbjerg - over budget, over time, under benefits, over and over again.

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        @evan Every once in a while nuclear power gets a surge of fantastical promises not based on reality and tried-and-tested example. A flock of believers will spread the gospel. Everything they say is always based on some hypothetical technology, some kind of new generation of reactors that either do not exist yet or are only run experimentally. Every time, it fails to work as well as promised.

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          @evan Every once in a while nuclear power gets a surge of fantastical promises not based on reality and tried-and-tested example. A flock of believers will spread the gospel. Everything they say is always based on some hypothetical technology, some kind of new generation of reactors that either do not exist yet or are only run experimentally. Every time, it fails to work as well as promised.

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          #4

          @malte @evan [watches in Sweden and France of the 70s]

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            @malte @evan [watches in Sweden and France of the 70s]

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            #5

            @mojala Yes thank you for pointing in that direction, the Messmer plan in France is a great example of my point. More than 10 years after the plan was announced, in 1988, the load factor of all the plants that were built were very low at 61%. Why? Because the original projections of electricity use were way off. Nuclear is always custom made, the opposite of modular and flexible, so you can have it run at once, see what works, adjust the design as you go. This is why they always under deliver.

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            • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

              @mojala Yes thank you for pointing in that direction, the Messmer plan in France is a great example of my point. More than 10 years after the plan was announced, in 1988, the load factor of all the plants that were built were very low at 61%. Why? Because the original projections of electricity use were way off. Nuclear is always custom made, the opposite of modular and flexible, so you can have it run at once, see what works, adjust the design as you go. This is why they always under deliver.

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              @malte So going forwards you think we will be using less energy per capita and most of it in other forms than electricity? Ok silly me.

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              • mojala@mastodon.onlineM mojala@mastodon.online

                @malte So going forwards you think we will be using less energy per capita and most of it in other forms than electricity? Ok silly me.

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                #7

                @mojala You want to tell me that we will be using more energy and most of it in the form of electricity. And you want to know whether I agree with you. Is that it?

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                • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                  @mojala You want to tell me that we will be using more energy and most of it in the form of electricity. And you want to know whether I agree with you. Is that it?

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                  @malte I don’t actually care. Sorry to have bothered you.

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                  • mojala@mastodon.onlineM mojala@mastodon.online

                    @malte I don’t actually care. Sorry to have bothered you.

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                    #9

                    @mojala Well that was a bit of waste of my time. I appreciate the apology.

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