If the government stops providing services, should citizens stop paying taxes?
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@evan Yes. And I have two buts. First but is that citizens should probably consider paying taxes to some other entity. Reviving the good old progressive party membership fee, where you give some of your income to a revolutionary party that also organizes for social needs, could be an idea. The other but is that I don't want my yes to imply that taxes are some kind of exchange with the government (I give you taxes, you give me services), because that undermines other values.
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@evan Yes. And I have two buts. First but is that citizens should probably consider paying taxes to some other entity. Reviving the good old progressive party membership fee, where you give some of your income to a revolutionary party that also organizes for social needs, could be an idea. The other but is that I don't want my yes to imply that taxes are some kind of exchange with the government (I give you taxes, you give me services), because that undermines other values.
@malte you have two butts!?!?
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@malte you have two butts!?!?
@evan Yes, very contradictory!
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@evan Yes. And I have two buts. First but is that citizens should probably consider paying taxes to some other entity. Reviving the good old progressive party membership fee, where you give some of your income to a revolutionary party that also organizes for social needs, could be an idea. The other but is that I don't want my yes to imply that taxes are some kind of exchange with the government (I give you taxes, you give me services), because that undermines other values.
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@dk Yes, the government doesn't just have taxes to take money from citizens. It has taxes to create money. One point the Taxpayer's lament might be on to something. Money is credit and trust. Every time we pay our taxes, we are ritually endorsing the government. A government with citizens that stop paying taxes, would have lost its credit/trust. The magic works in some ways. @evan
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@dk Yes, the government doesn't just have taxes to take money from citizens. It has taxes to create money. One point the Taxpayer's lament might be on to something. Money is credit and trust. Every time we pay our taxes, we are ritually endorsing the government. A government with citizens that stop paying taxes, would have lost its credit/trust. The magic works in some ways. @evan
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@dk If that's an answer to my comment, it sounds more like a perversion of what I think or an extreme interpretation of what I said.
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@dk If that's an answer to my comment, it sounds more like a perversion of what I think or an extreme interpretation of what I said.
@malte not so mutch a response or intended to reflect your comment, just a contiuation of my train of thought
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@malte not so mutch a response or intended to reflect your comment, just a contiuation of my train of thought
@dk That's having a conversation with your own thoughts. If you @ me, I assume you're trying to respond and make conversation.
