"I added a new rule 15: do not be the reason we need to add a new rule."

[maddiem4@raphus.social]

@codinghorror @jerry Is this related to some other servers like mastodon.art getting so fed up with racism problems spilling over from infosec.exchange that they announced they'd be defederating it? Because it would be nice if that could be averted.

[offbeatmammal@mastodon.social]

@codinghorror @jerry I end most of my driver's briefings at race meetings with "...and don't be the reason we have to write a new rule" so this. And firmly agree with the rules for the site

[apth@infosec.exchange]

Love your work @jerry

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@codinghorror @jerry

the rule "Do not be the reason we need to add a new rule" was a new rule they needed to add where someone was the reason

[luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@codinghorror @jerry It's always interesting to think on how limits (as well as permissions) may cross their own borders.

Let's suppose I cite a very despicable person, enlisting all the reasons for which they should be disliked. Will it become "hate speech"? Or it won't, simply because my words are shared by "the good ones"?

All of this is just a reflection on how we can stay rational, respectful, but still express disapproval, or strong opinions.

[wheresalice@woof.tech]

@codinghorror but this is only happening now because other instances were publicly threatening to defederate right?

[johan_nus@veganism.social]

@MaddieM4 @codinghorror @jerry

Source?

[annika@xoxo.zone]

@johan_nus @MaddieM4 https://mastodon.art/@Curator/117149366986151403

[codinghorror@infosec.exchange]

@MaddieM4 @jerry tell me who these who these problem accounts are so that I might speak to them in a clear, direct voice

[maddiem4@raphus.social]

@codinghorror @jerry https://mastodon.art/@Curator/117149366986151403

Here's the context on-ramp I know about. I'm the wrong person to consult about the details - I'm very white myself, so nobody has been racist to me directly.

[jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange]

TBH, I thought mastodon.art blocked infosec.exchange ages ago. And history being a judge, they don't seem to be the sorts of instance moderators that will back down once they've decided to pass judgement. welshpixie will pick a set of posts where they disagree with the moderation decisions of another instance, and use that as a reason to start another fediblock callout.

This seems to happen every month or so with another instance. I kinda stopped paying attention.

@MaddieM4 @codinghorror @jerry

[jerry@infosec.exchange]

@JessTheUnstill @codinghorror

I've addressed the situation with the accounts, updated/clarified rules, announced the changes, and clarified expectations of moderators. I am not going to engage any further in this. I am perfectly happy with being blocked, and to some extent, I hope that happens, and I understand that may make some people leave, and I understand that too.