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Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

    For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

    Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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    #97

    @sundogplanets the outback of Australia between Mount Isa, Alice Springs, and Woomera is pretty amazing for dark sky. My experience was before mega constellations though.

    The eastern flank of the Sierras and out into some parts of Nevada, Utah, and western Colorado are also good. It's less good than it used to be due to everything in the sky.

    Some areas in Big Sur if you get up high above the salt air but not too high to get light spilling over from the Salinas Valley or Fresno are pretty good for California.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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      #98

      @sundogplanets Tekapo for me too!! My husband and I are from New England and we went there on our honeymoon 7 years ago. The clarity of the sky + the new-to-me constellations was absolutely mind blowing (he traveled to the Australian outback once as a kid so I’m not sure how it compared for him haha)

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/117063592703392163

        Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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        #99
        What I wouldn't give for the street lights to go out at midnight...
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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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          #100

          @sundogplanets I'm not sure if it was 1993 or 94. My parents read there was going to be an exceptional perseids shower but it was very cloudy so dad took the car and we kept travelling further and further to find a good spot. A province and half later and we were in the middle of nowhere, at a dirt farm track between wheat fields, with camping chairs having a perfect view of the open sky. At some moments there were almost 15 meteors per minute.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

            For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

            Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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            #101

            @sundogplanets Same on the first one! (Except it was 13 years ago.) It was exceptional. And to think all of our ancestors experienced that every clear night everywhere. It's really a shame that we've denied this to ourselves.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

              For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

              Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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              #102

              @sundogplanets

              My parents live near Burks Falls, just south of Sudbury.

              While they were building the house, they lived in a cargo trailer on the property, and I went to visit a few years ago.

              The milky way was absolutely spectacular.

              That was the best view of it I'd ever seen, better than during the 2003 blackout.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                #103

                @sundogplanets We signed up for an astronomy evening in the Atacama Desert, amazing skies.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Oh I should add to my own personal list: the multiple aurora shows over the past couple of years that I've been able to see from my own house! May 2024 and especially November 2025 were completely mind-blowing.

                  I found myself joyously whooping and yelling at the sky. I kept thinking of the Cree name for a really active aurora show, cı̂payak kâ-nı̂mihitocik, which translates to "the ancestors are dancing". It was truly an emotionally powerful event to bear witness to.

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                  #104

                  @sundogplanets
                  Ah, reminds me of a solo road trip I took from California Seattle to visit a friend... This was in 1997-98

                  I got to see Hale-Bopp and aurora borealis on the road

                  Plenty of both driving right at 'em through the empty parts of Norcal and Oregon

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                    For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                    Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                    #105

                    @sundogplanets
                    My backyard in Winnipeg, seeing the moons of Jupiter like a mini solar system for the first time.
                    I was fortunate to grow up seeing many dark sky’s so often wasn’t as perspective shattering. I enjoyed the Milky Way reflected in a lake, or watching the percieds at a lake edge like Moon Lake, in Riding Mountain National Park.
                    Staring up from the backseat of a car travelling at night across Saskatchewan is amazing.🙂

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                      For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                      Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                      #106

                      @sundogplanets Sitting on various beaches in the Abel Tasman National Park, back in the first decade of the century before the light pollution from development crept closer - satellites were a rare and kinda exciting thing to see, but the big Aurora in May 24 was the genuinely life altering experience for me

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                        #107

                        @sundogplanets Camping on the rim of the Grand Canyon when I was in high school. It was so incredibly dark and yet there were so many stars in the sky that it was almost frightening.

                        The sky was nearly that dark when I first moved to rural Nebraska 20 years ago. I was able to take photos of comets, galaxies, and nebulae using just a regular camera with a tripod, I didn't even have a telescope. Now the suburbs of Omaha and Lincoln have grown so much that it's barely better than when I lived in Southern California.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                          For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                          Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                          #108

                          @sundogplanets It wasn’t the biggest or most auroratastic, but I remember being at a friend’s cottage just outside North Bay, Ontario 20+ years ago, and seeing the Milky Way for the first time. First time I’d been anywhere approximating a dark sky.

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/117063592703392163

                            Most city dwellers don't know how much of the night sky has already been stolen by billionaires, because poorly planned, wasteful city lights have already drowned out the stars for them.

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                            #109

                            @sundogplanets @catsalad @ariadne I camp at sites off the side of a highway 20mi from major metropolitan areas and can see them with the naked eye

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                              For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                              Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                              #110

                              @sundogplanets walking to the barn every night for the late horse feeding, Skull Valley AZ, watching the parade.

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                #111

                                @sundogplanets when I was furloughed from work in 2020 and on my ~hmm where should I remake my life tour~ my partner pulled over off highway 50 near absolutely middle of nowhere, Cimmaron Colorado

                                after letting my eyes adjust, it was my first time not seeing fuzzy I think that's the milky way but actual holy shit that's the milky way, dazzling. I have not wanted to live somewhere I couldn't get that since.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                  For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                  Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                  #112

                                  @sundogplanets my astigmatism started to affect my vision in the late 80’s. I miss the clarity of star gazing as a young person under 20.

                                  I remember some epic Northern Lights during the winter of 1985 in New Hampshire.

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                                  • dpnash@c.imD dpnash@c.im

                                    @sundogplanets

                                    Northwestern Nebraska (Sand Hills country) in the mid-90s for one of the first annual Nebraska Star Party outings. Skies so dark you had a hard time identifying the traditional constellations, and the Milky Way was so bright it cast shadows.

                                    I got some estimates of the brightness of the faintest stars I could see there, and the site handily beat some other outstandingly dark skies I’d been to before, even including a location at the edge of the Atacama Desert I went to for a total solar eclipse the year before.

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                                    #113

                                    @sundogplanets Specific example: I’d been doing amateur astronomy actively as a hobby for about a decade by then, and was quite comfortable finding my way around the sky without a reference, even in ultra dark skies with too many stars to count.

                                    One night at that particular star party, I found myself looking at a bright star that I couldn’t quite identify. It took me a minute or so to realize that I was looking at Polaris.

                                    The sky was *so* dark that the stars of the Little Dipper (Ursa Minor) were almost completely swamped by dozens of other stars nearby that are completely invisible from the city and even not readily visible from “ordinary” dark sites. You’d think the stars of the Little Dipper (though kind of dim by overall star brightness standards) would be bright enough to be clear under such a dark sky. From a kind of, sort of, dark sky, sure, that’s what you experience—but from there, they were literally swamped almost beyond recognition.

                                    The kind of sky where you almost feel you need to hold onto something because you feel like you’ll float off and drown in the stars if you’re not careful.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      "At night this reassuring curtain of blue is pulled away and you realize where you really are: at infinity’s doorstep. A plain is what a mountain aims to be: the closest you can come to being in outer space while yet having your feet on this planet."

                                      I really hope to get out to Grasslands Nat'l Park this week and appreciate infinity's doorstep, despite smoke and satellites trying to take that away.

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                                      #114

                                      @sundogplanets I'm a flyover country dweller who has been madly in love with the plains as long as I've been alive and this is maybe the best poetry I've read that explains exactly what is so awe inspiring about living in a place where the land is as close to flat as it can get. it's the one place where you can tell how big this entire thing really is. a few of the times I've cried the hardest it was looking up at the milky way where there were no lights for miles, and no hills or mountains to take away any section of the firmament. it was just me and the sky, it was just the finite and infinity. There are people who have never seen a sky with more than a few dozen stars. There are people who think that everything that's here is big.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Where is the best, most incredible, most perspective-shattering night sky that you've ever seen?

                                        For me, it was the Tekapo dark sky reserve in New Zealand a few months ago (I got up at 1am both nights I was there specifically so I could get some mostly satellite-free skies to enjoy).

                                        Second place: Mojave desert many years ago (before megaconstellations) or winter skies about an hour outside Regina, when the nights are long and there are no sunlit satellites due to geometry.

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                                        #115

                                        @sundogplanets I was sleeping under the stars on the Deschutes River, in eastern Oregon, in a horseshoe canyon, summer of '98. I woke up in the middle of the night with the Milky Way overhead and more stars than I had thought possible.

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                                          #116

                                          @cafuego I am COMPLETELY jealous of the Milky Way view you get in the southern hemisphere!

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