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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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    #30

    @tante

    Making money out of something that now is freely available and is stolen by them...
    knowledge.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

      mossman@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @tante Rick Beato - of all people - made me much more optimistic this morning when he pointed out that far from "owning" the LLMs, all the tech bro companies will go the way of the big expensive music studios when everyone ends up doing it themselves on their own laptop. Excellent point well made, I think...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLnnoZPALI

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      • strayhorse@c.imS strayhorse@c.im

        @patrick_h_lauke @tante Interesting vid posted yesterday by Rick Beato https://youtu.be/YTLnnoZPALI?si=9DOCmiCwURXovAR6

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        #32

        @strayhorse @patrick_h_lauke @tante Beato. Interesting guy.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

          ruston@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #33

          @tante The ones controlling the power want to ensure that those beneath them are uneducated and non critical thinkers. We are not progressing we are in fact going backwards.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

            quasit@kolektiva.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #34

            @tante
            Perhaps they will make it illegal to be educated. They could treat it as theft of the intellectual property of the elite. I suppose the punishment would be lobotomy!

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

              The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

              It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

              samiamsam@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #35

              @tante

              techbroligarchs really are fucking idiots

              i have no fucking idea way anyone listens to any of them

              *head desk*

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                pizzademon@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #36

                @tante A) he makes it sound like the instant skill download from The Matrix

                B) Would you fly a helicopter if the knowledge pack was assembled by existing AI models? Would a model 5 years out get to six-sigma?

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                • mossman@social.vivaldi.netM mossman@social.vivaldi.net

                  @tante Rick Beato - of all people - made me much more optimistic this morning when he pointed out that far from "owning" the LLMs, all the tech bro companies will go the way of the big expensive music studios when everyone ends up doing it themselves on their own laptop. Excellent point well made, I think...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLnnoZPALI

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                  #37

                  @mossman yeah I didn't find his argument very convincing tbh

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                    #38

                    @tante How quickly the supposed nonprofit mission of OpenAI has been forgotten in favor of "metered intelligence for sale."

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                    • quasit@kolektiva.socialQ quasit@kolektiva.social

                      @tante
                      Perhaps they will make it illegal to be educated. They could treat it as theft of the intellectual property of the elite. I suppose the punishment would be lobotomy!

                      mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #39

                      @Quasit @tante

                      Do not fucking give them ideas!

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                        tagyourtoe@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #40

                        @tante Why does Sam Altman look like somebody put Frosty the Snowman's hat on a condom full of tapioca pudding and then kicked it in the head until it had brain damage?

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                        • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

                          @tante and also, the whole power dynamic of shifting home/personal computing back to a mainframe that you need to buy time on. what has already happened with a lot of software moving to a "rent, but never own" model

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                          #41

                          @patrick_h_lauke @tante I actually prefer software subscriptions, so long as they’re reasonably priced. I’ve seen too many apps fade and die because their devs can’t afford to maintain them. I like open source, but we’ve convinced ourselves that software should be free, which is as much of a delusion as saying AI isn’t massive intellectual property theft.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                            mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #42

                            @tante

                            This reminds me of a Johnny Mnemonic scenario, where any of us may have unauthorized data in our head that could be picked up by brain scans, resulting in criminal charges, civil liability and forced extraction.

                            *Torment Nexus is a warning not a business plan meme*

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                            • artgeek@mastodon.socialA artgeek@mastodon.social

                              @patrick_h_lauke @tante I actually prefer software subscriptions, so long as they’re reasonably priced. I’ve seen too many apps fade and die because their devs can’t afford to maintain them. I like open source, but we’ve convinced ourselves that software should be free, which is as much of a delusion as saying AI isn’t massive intellectual property theft.

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                              #43

                              @patrick_h_lauke @tante I will agree that large corporations are virtually forcing us into cloud storage and on demand downloads so that we’re dependent on them. I had to jump through hoops to keep local copies of my files.

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                              • artgeek@mastodon.socialA artgeek@mastodon.social

                                @patrick_h_lauke @tante I will agree that large corporations are virtually forcing us into cloud storage and on demand downloads so that we’re dependent on them. I had to jump through hoops to keep local copies of my files.

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                                #44

                                @ArtGeek @patrick_h_lauke @tante

                                I prefer Davinci Resolve's model of selling permanent licenses to each major release. So you pay a few hundred bucks to own the software indefinitely, but if they release a version with a bunch of new features you can pay to upgrade. Much more ethical than subscriptions.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                  #45

                                  @tante the only way this is like Uber is that you may have forgot how to drive the car, but now you have to focus on making sure people get to the right place. Even when they might not know where they're trying to get to. Also to create a safe environment for that car to drive in, because otherwise it will definitely hurt people.

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                                  • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                                    @ArtGeek @patrick_h_lauke @tante

                                    I prefer Davinci Resolve's model of selling permanent licenses to each major release. So you pay a few hundred bucks to own the software indefinitely, but if they release a version with a bunch of new features you can pay to upgrade. Much more ethical than subscriptions.

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                                    #46

                                    @contrasocial @ArtGeek @tante ditto with CaptureOne, Ableton Live...

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                                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                      quixote@mastodon.nzQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #47

                                      @tante Tell me you have no clue what intelligence is without admitting it.

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                        algocompsynth@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #48

                                        @tante I am literally old enough to have heard Lewis Stauss say nuclear energy would be "too cheap to meter". I wonder what his / his contemporaries' great-grandchildren are thinking about that.

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                          #49

                                          @tante where are more Luigis when you really need them...

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