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Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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  • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

    Y’all forget what happened to Cruise?

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    acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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    #19

    You can’t forget what you never knew.

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    • A acockworkorange@mander.xyz

      You can’t forget what you never knew.

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      spacenoodle@lemmy.world
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      #20

      Briefly, they lied to the NHTSA about dragging a pedestrian 20 ft and pinning them after another car knocked them into the vehicle’s path, and while they just narrowly avoided criminal charges, that incident was the final straw that caused the company to unravel, fully revealing an internal culture that flouted safety, ultimately ending with parent company GM pulling funding and recycling the technology for their assisted driving efforts while scrapping AV plans.

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      • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

        Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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        olgratin_magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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        #21

        Respecting the property of waymo is too high a bar.

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        • M mac@mander.xyz

          Legally allowed, sure. “Welcome” is a stretch. lol

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          grue@lemmy.world
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          #22

          But drivers must love having cyclists share the lane with them: obviously, they oppose bike lanes because they can’t bear to be separated from us!

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          • T tangentism@beehaw.org

            Then Waymo shouldnt be surprised if cyclists destroy their vehicles because they can’t obey traffic regulations and observe basic human safety

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            frenchgeek@lemmy.ml
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            #23

            I wonder if the cars detect a flat or if they keep driving with one, or more…

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            • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

              Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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              grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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              Doesn’t this kind of lock them out from a lot of markets?

              Seems like admitting defeat on self driving, you know the one we were suppose to have 8 years ago

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              • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

                Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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                grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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                #25

                Now tell them how cyclists are technically entitled to the entire lane, but how that actually plays out is highly dynamic and relies on communication

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                • G grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works

                  Doesn’t this kind of lock them out from a lot of markets?

                  Seems like admitting defeat on self driving, you know the one we were suppose to have 8 years ago

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                  axx@slrpnk.net
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                  I don’t think that’s how it works. Decision-makers are rarely that principled. Instead, it’ll just part of the downsides “everyone needs to accept” as a tradeoff for this “inevitable technological progress”.

                  Kranzberg’s “laws” of technology would like to say something here, but decision-makers can’t hear them over all the lobybing.

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                  • F frenchgeek@lemmy.ml

                    I wonder if the cars detect a flat or if they keep driving with one, or more…

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                    axx@slrpnk.net
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                    #27

                    They surely detect flats, all modern cars are filled with sensors and do that. The question is more how many flats do they need to detect before calling for help.

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                    • inari@piefed.zipI inari@piefed.zip

                      Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar” – because customers want to be dropped off in them, autonomous vehicle firm Waymo tells cyclists

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                      hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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                      #28

                      a waymo on fire

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