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When your friend/loved one tries something new, PLEASE encourage them and don't shit on them just because they're not instantly a whiz at it...

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  • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
    harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    When your friend/loved one tries something new, PLEASE encourage them and don't shit on them just because they're not instantly a whiz at it...

    Don't get competitive. Don't get jealous. Don't "test" them. Under NO circumstances pass judgement unprompted and without being constructive.

    All these behaviors might seem funny in the moment but they are deeply damaging.

    Sounds so obvious yet most people I've met have sucked at it

    nyovaya@transfem.socialN lumi@snug.moeL fandasin@social.linux.pizzaF 3 Replies Last reply
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      harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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      It invites further debate... I personally don't think that "talent" is a thing. Or at the very least shouldn't be the "end all be all" to someone trying their hand at arts.

      If you LOVE art and are passionate about it, good news: you CAN make art!!!

      Practicing is great but don't live by someone's arbitrary idea of what constitutes "grace" and "great art"

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      • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

        When your friend/loved one tries something new, PLEASE encourage them and don't shit on them just because they're not instantly a whiz at it...

        Don't get competitive. Don't get jealous. Don't "test" them. Under NO circumstances pass judgement unprompted and without being constructive.

        All these behaviors might seem funny in the moment but they are deeply damaging.

        Sounds so obvious yet most people I've met have sucked at it

        nyovaya@transfem.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org Do people get jealous on purpose? I dont think so.

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        • nyovaya@transfem.socialN nyovaya@transfem.social

          @harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org Do people get jealous on purpose? I dont think so.

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          #4

          @nyovaya may have been unfortunate phrasing on my part (English isn't my first language) but I do think that, if determined to, jealousy can (and should) be kept at bay and redirected into a healthier reaction. Just like you'd expect others to rein in their anger. Or basically, *at the very least*, people should keep their feelings of jealousy to themselves and not passive-agressively put or project them on others.

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          • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

            It invites further debate... I personally don't think that "talent" is a thing. Or at the very least shouldn't be the "end all be all" to someone trying their hand at arts.

            If you LOVE art and are passionate about it, good news: you CAN make art!!!

            Practicing is great but don't live by someone's arbitrary idea of what constitutes "grace" and "great art"

            kats@chaosfem.twK This user is from outside of this forum
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            @harmonycorrupted The consensus among creative types is that talent is definitely a thing, but...

            • Talent is no use by itself. It's a multiplier for the hard work of practice.
            • Dedicated hard work will beat pure talent, every time.

            I think the idea of a prodigy who succeeds through sheer talent, is an appealing myth for a few reasons. Largely it's for people who don't want to face the part about hard work.
            First, it's used as an excuse: "I'd love to {become an artist, play piano, etc.} but I don't have any talent." When you answer with "that doesn't matter; most of the best just worked hard at it for years" they stammer excuses for why they couldn't do that.
            It also plays into the "chosen one" idea in fantasy such as Star Wars.

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            • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

              @harmonycorrupted The consensus among creative types is that talent is definitely a thing, but...

              • Talent is no use by itself. It's a multiplier for the hard work of practice.
              • Dedicated hard work will beat pure talent, every time.

              I think the idea of a prodigy who succeeds through sheer talent, is an appealing myth for a few reasons. Largely it's for people who don't want to face the part about hard work.
              First, it's used as an excuse: "I'd love to {become an artist, play piano, etc.} but I don't have any talent." When you answer with "that doesn't matter; most of the best just worked hard at it for years" they stammer excuses for why they couldn't do that.
              It also plays into the "chosen one" idea in fantasy such as Star Wars.

              harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @KatS very well-put!!👏🏻

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              • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

                @nyovaya may have been unfortunate phrasing on my part (English isn't my first language) but I do think that, if determined to, jealousy can (and should) be kept at bay and redirected into a healthier reaction. Just like you'd expect others to rein in their anger. Or basically, *at the very least*, people should keep their feelings of jealousy to themselves and not passive-agressively put or project them on others.

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                @harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org Oh so you just meant how one expresses these feelings, then I would agree, thought its about the feelings overall popping up.

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                • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

                  @nyovaya may have been unfortunate phrasing on my part (English isn't my first language) but I do think that, if determined to, jealousy can (and should) be kept at bay and redirected into a healthier reaction. Just like you'd expect others to rein in their anger. Or basically, *at the very least*, people should keep their feelings of jealousy to themselves and not passive-agressively put or project them on others.

                  stevewfolds@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @harmonycorrupted @nyovaya
                  Practice is often mistaken for talent.

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                  • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

                    When your friend/loved one tries something new, PLEASE encourage them and don't shit on them just because they're not instantly a whiz at it...

                    Don't get competitive. Don't get jealous. Don't "test" them. Under NO circumstances pass judgement unprompted and without being constructive.

                    All these behaviors might seem funny in the moment but they are deeply damaging.

                    Sounds so obvious yet most people I've met have sucked at it

                    lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @harmonycorrupted it's gross when people needlessly discourage others from doing what they want to do. shouldn't we all try to be supportive of one-another?

                    if there is no reason why what they're doing is problematic, at least don't break them down over it. and preferably encourage them

                    breaking people down will only foster a toxic environment for everyone, where no-one feels like they can truly be themself; where no-one feels like they can express themself

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                    • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

                      It invites further debate... I personally don't think that "talent" is a thing. Or at the very least shouldn't be the "end all be all" to someone trying their hand at arts.

                      If you LOVE art and are passionate about it, good news: you CAN make art!!!

                      Practicing is great but don't live by someone's arbitrary idea of what constitutes "grace" and "great art"

                      lovebytes@kinkycats.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @harmonycorrupted The world has conditioned people to value output. Not the process

                      Sure the final result can matter, but the journey to get there is where the magic happens

                      And it feels like the world of AI generated images that's incredibly apparent

                      Slop output is pushed by people who don't value the process and to those people garbage output is better than learning the actual creative skills

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                      • harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.orgH harmonycorrupted@kinkycats.org

                        When your friend/loved one tries something new, PLEASE encourage them and don't shit on them just because they're not instantly a whiz at it...

                        Don't get competitive. Don't get jealous. Don't "test" them. Under NO circumstances pass judgement unprompted and without being constructive.

                        All these behaviors might seem funny in the moment but they are deeply damaging.

                        Sounds so obvious yet most people I've met have sucked at it

                        fandasin@social.linux.pizzaF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @harmonycorrupted

                        Seen somewhere:
                        "If we stopped trying after first few failures, we would never learn to walk."

                        I've started to learn to play guitar around my 30.
                        It took me about 5 years to get to level I am comfortable to play around my friends.
                        But even learning (and I'm far from perfect at playing it) made me so happy, that the process of learning is enough to keep me going and improving.

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                        • stevewfolds@mastodon.worldS stevewfolds@mastodon.world

                          @harmonycorrupted @nyovaya
                          Practice is often mistaken for talent.

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                          @stevewfolds

                          I would say, there's no "talent" alone.
                          You have to practice in any case and if you want to be really good, you'll have to practice really hard.

                          @harmonycorrupted @nyovaya

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