OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
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@Quasit I don't understand why people would use it for more than absolutely necessary.
It's a management fad. They have to make some huge expenditures every year to justify their existence and "simplify the process". But the old platforms take forever to go away, and there are always at least a few people using each kind no matter how old it is. For god's sake, all we need is email and a spreadsheet to track requests!
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@Quasit I don't understand why people would use it for more than absolutely necessary.
@cR0w
️ People at the office get really excited about all the integrations it has and I have no idea why. And it always inevitably leads to confusion anyway. And then they think they can solve that with more integrations and sharing tutorials around. Having four different tasks show up as four different applications in my task bar feels like a feature to me, something to be celebrated. Instead, the vast majority of the time, my only two open programs are Teams and my web browser. I insist on using the browser to access SharePoint, but I even hate that.I wish we could just get a basic messaging app that isn't secretly a web browser, opens in a (small) fraction of a second, and doesn't do anything else. But people would insist on using Teams anyway because, "it's more powerful."
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@cR0w Correct, that's what Lotus Notes for!
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@cR0w
️ People at the office get really excited about all the integrations it has and I have no idea why. And it always inevitably leads to confusion anyway. And then they think they can solve that with more integrations and sharing tutorials around. Having four different tasks show up as four different applications in my task bar feels like a feature to me, something to be celebrated. Instead, the vast majority of the time, my only two open programs are Teams and my web browser. I insist on using the browser to access SharePoint, but I even hate that.I wish we could just get a basic messaging app that isn't secretly a web browser, opens in a (small) fraction of a second, and doesn't do anything else. But people would insist on using Teams anyway because, "it's more powerful."
@piper Excel, Thunderbird, and Signal and I'm set. I wish LibreOffice Calc was suitable to replace Excel but it's just not. Yet.
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
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@cR0w yo dawg i heard you hate sharepoint so everything is sharepoint now motherfucker
"What if we took the worst parts of SharePoint (all of it) and Skype For Business (all of it) and smashed it together with a UI that only kind of makes sense on a tablet, but everyone will use it with a mouse?"
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I firmly believe the only good design decision in MS Teams is that the menu says "Quit Teams" and not "Exit" as Microsoft has traditionally used.
It may be wishful thinking, but I hope that someone spent significant social capital to argue for that choice, knowing it would be the only positive association with the software for many users.
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
@cR0w “No, you can’t just put that on SharePoint, it has to be SharePoint SOR”
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
Just another day in the office: opening a spreadsheet in Excel…no, it’s a fscking Sharepoint-flavored spreadsheet that opens in a web browser … no, shit, it’s in Teams, so of *course* it not only opens in Teams, it steals the window context so completely I can’t go back to the chat group I was just in and need to get context from.
Good thing I’m avoiding gen-“AI” at work. There’s probably a Microsoft Document Copilot by now that’ll swipe context for any Excel file and force Microsoft Copilot for Excel to open it and invite me to have a “conversation” with my spreadsheets.
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@novet Copilot is that you?
@cR0w You're right. And, honestly? I shouldn't have misled you. It's not about SharePoint, it's about trust --- and I violated yours.
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
@cR0w Definitely not a document repository. Clearly another MS developed piece of software torture. So, so glad I no longer am forced to use it or it's equally evil brother, SharePoint. Unfortunately, I cannot escape the doom of Zoom
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@cR0w “No, you can’t just put that on SharePoint, it has to be SharePoint SOR”
@Lando oh no
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Just another day in the office: opening a spreadsheet in Excel…no, it’s a fscking Sharepoint-flavored spreadsheet that opens in a web browser … no, shit, it’s in Teams, so of *course* it not only opens in Teams, it steals the window context so completely I can’t go back to the chat group I was just in and need to get context from.
Good thing I’m avoiding gen-“AI” at work. There’s probably a Microsoft Document Copilot by now that’ll swipe context for any Excel file and force Microsoft Copilot for Excel to open it and invite me to have a “conversation” with my spreadsheets.
@dpnash The worst was seeing it in Notepad. WTF?
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@cR0w You're right. And, honestly? I shouldn't have misled you. It's not about SharePoint, it's about trust --- and I violated yours.
@novet nailed it
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@Lando oh no
@cR0w (this is a real one btw)
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@cR0w (this is a real one btw)
@Lando I believe you because it's so familiar.
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@novet nailed it
@cR0w why people pay big GenAI companies for this is crazy. i'd spurt bullshit all day for free!!
