*sighhhhhhhhh*
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*sighhhhhhhhh*
Nobody--NOBODY--nobody in human history has ever earned a billion dollars without benefiting from structurally-supported exploitation and theft, whether directly or by proxy, and no, not even that one billionaire you like; nobody means N O B O D Y.
Yes, I've considered the one outcome you're thinking of. YES, I have considered the outcome you're now fabricating that would never happen, and the answer is still fuck all billionaires.
The only arguments against this depend on the idea that all people work voluntarily and are not being systematically coerced on threat of literal death.
OOPS.
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*sighhhhhhhhh*
Nobody--NOBODY--nobody in human history has ever earned a billion dollars without benefiting from structurally-supported exploitation and theft, whether directly or by proxy, and no, not even that one billionaire you like; nobody means N O B O D Y.
Yes, I've considered the one outcome you're thinking of. YES, I have considered the outcome you're now fabricating that would never happen, and the answer is still fuck all billionaires.
The only arguments against this depend on the idea that all people work voluntarily and are not being systematically coerced on threat of literal death.
OOPS.
The part that really bakes my noodle is that the people who tend to argue in defense of billionaires also tend to believe, as billionaires do, that an inability to gain wealth by any means necessary is somehow itself a moral failing.
As ever, I maintain that this is the worst and stupidest death cult I've ever been in.
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*sighhhhhhhhh*
Nobody--NOBODY--nobody in human history has ever earned a billion dollars without benefiting from structurally-supported exploitation and theft, whether directly or by proxy, and no, not even that one billionaire you like; nobody means N O B O D Y.
Yes, I've considered the one outcome you're thinking of. YES, I have considered the outcome you're now fabricating that would never happen, and the answer is still fuck all billionaires.
The only arguments against this depend on the idea that all people work voluntarily and are not being systematically coerced on threat of literal death.
OOPS.
@nonehitwonder I think people pretty much beg to tour with Taylor Swift. I think she pretty much gave her tour crew $100K bonuses* and she drops money in every city she tours.
This isn’t to say she hasn’t benefited from exploitation, but I think I have a hard time being mad. And she’s honestly extremely talented (athletically, business and music.), so I don’t think her work is stolen.
* The specifics are not researched. It’s something like that.
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@nonehitwonder I think people pretty much beg to tour with Taylor Swift. I think she pretty much gave her tour crew $100K bonuses* and she drops money in every city she tours.
This isn’t to say she hasn’t benefited from exploitation, but I think I have a hard time being mad. And she’s honestly extremely talented (athletically, business and music.), so I don’t think her work is stolen.
* The specifics are not researched. It’s something like that.
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@nonehitwonder I think people pretty much beg to tour with Taylor Swift. I think she pretty much gave her tour crew $100K bonuses* and she drops money in every city she tours.
This isn’t to say she hasn’t benefited from exploitation, but I think I have a hard time being mad. And she’s honestly extremely talented (athletically, business and music.), so I don’t think her work is stolen.
* The specifics are not researched. It’s something like that.
@Extra_Special_Carbon to be clear, I'm glad Taylor Swift makes an effort, but to say she became a BILLIONAIRE solely on the merits of her work and business acumen overlooks years and years of being a product for one of the shadier exploitative industrial complexes in present-day.
Is she responsible for the crimes of the entertainment industry? No. Did she become a billionaire without causing harm to many, many people? Also no.
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@nonehitwonder @Extra_Special_Carbon I finally relented, but I was blocking people after someone posted a thread about how it was racist to think that billionaires were inclined to fascism, that went on to list two white women who were billionaire philanthropists, except that of course their philanthropic projects included eugenics, privatization of public services, and donations to fascist politicians.
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*sighhhhhhhhh*
Nobody--NOBODY--nobody in human history has ever earned a billion dollars without benefiting from structurally-supported exploitation and theft, whether directly or by proxy, and no, not even that one billionaire you like; nobody means N O B O D Y.
Yes, I've considered the one outcome you're thinking of. YES, I have considered the outcome you're now fabricating that would never happen, and the answer is still fuck all billionaires.
The only arguments against this depend on the idea that all people work voluntarily and are not being systematically coerced on threat of literal death.
OOPS.
@nonehitwonder ...and I took that personally.
On a more serious note, billionnaires suck, and so does capitalism, but I grew up in a (afterwards post-) socialist country, and to be honest, that sucked a lot worse. Under capitalism, you may die if you do not work. Under Soviet-style socialism, someone is going to see to it that you do.
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The part that really bakes my noodle is that the people who tend to argue in defense of billionaires also tend to believe, as billionaires do, that an inability to gain wealth by any means necessary is somehow itself a moral failing.
As ever, I maintain that this is the worst and stupidest death cult I've ever been in.
At the end of the day, being against billionaires isn't about the individuals, or even the actual money; it's about abusive systems that hurt most of the people most of the time.
It just so happens that we are currently all being coerced into operating within and maintaining those systems for the benefit of a very small group of people in whose best interests it is to avoid the consequences of the abuses that form the foundation of their wealth, and those people happen to be billionaires.
I'm being glib, but in all seriousness, the venn diagram of billionaires who exist because of their ability to abuse with impunity vs the billions of people with inadequate housing due to that same abuse is a fucking circle.
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@nonehitwonder I think people pretty much beg to tour with Taylor Swift. I think she pretty much gave her tour crew $100K bonuses* and she drops money in every city she tours.
This isn’t to say she hasn’t benefited from exploitation, but I think I have a hard time being mad. And she’s honestly extremely talented (athletically, business and music.), so I don’t think her work is stolen.
* The specifics are not researched. It’s something like that.
@Extra_Special_Carbon @nonehitwonder bootlick for someone who will notice you.
She would not be a billionaire if she were a good person. She benefits from a network built on monopolies and payola. i.e. she's in a kind of mafia.
Billionaires are parasitic and here you are begging to be drained. What a weird thing to play devil's advocate for.
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