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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    There is no algorithm on here. You are free to like and share and interact with whatever you want, it won't affect what appears in your timeline.

    The only things in your timeline are all the posts from all the accounts and hashtags and groups you've followed. That's it, it's as simple as that. You control your timeline, there isn't any content being pushed at you or hidden from you or promoted by anyone.

    Lots more info and questions answered about this at https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

    #FediTips

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    feditips@social.growyourown.services
    wrote on sidst redigeret af feditips@social.growyourown.services
    #10

    p.s. Just to clarify, this post is mainly aimed at people who are nervous of liking or sharing the wrong thing in case it messes up what is served to them on their timeline (which is what happens on Twitter, Facebook etc).

    I am trying to reassure them that this DOESN'T happen on the Fediverse.

    I'm not trying to change the technical defintion of "algorithm", I'm just using that word in the sense that most non-technical people use it, to mean annoying opaque code that messes with timelines 🙂

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      p.s. Just to clarify, this post is mainly aimed at people who are nervous of liking or sharing the wrong thing in case it messes up what is served to them on their timeline (which is what happens on Twitter, Facebook etc).

      I am trying to reassure them that this DOESN'T happen on the Fediverse.

      I'm not trying to change the technical defintion of "algorithm", I'm just using that word in the sense that most non-technical people use it, to mean annoying opaque code that messes with timelines 🙂

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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #11

      @feditips@social.growyourown.services Your work is appreciated!

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        There is no algorithm on here. You are free to like and share and interact with whatever you want, it won't affect what appears in your timeline.

        The only things in your timeline are all the posts from all the accounts and hashtags and groups you've followed. That's it, it's as simple as that. You control your timeline, there isn't any content being pushed at you or hidden from you or promoted by anyone.

        Lots more info and questions answered about this at https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

        #FediTips

        crosswalk@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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        crosswalk@mastodon.world
        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #12

        @FediTips
        > there isn't any content being ... hidden from you

        Not true.
        I have accounts on different instances and they don't offer me the exact same fediverse.
        That's fine. And I understand why. It's just confusing for new folks.

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          There is no algorithm on here. You are free to like and share and interact with whatever you want, it won't affect what appears in your timeline.

          The only things in your timeline are all the posts from all the accounts and hashtags and groups you've followed. That's it, it's as simple as that. You control your timeline, there isn't any content being pushed at you or hidden from you or promoted by anyone.

          Lots more info and questions answered about this at https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

          #FediTips

          voxel@infosec.spaceV This user is from outside of this forum
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          voxel@infosec.space
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          #13

          @FediTips What about @loops For You page? Will that have some kind of algorithm behind it?

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          • voxel@infosec.spaceV voxel@infosec.space

            @FediTips What about @loops For You page? Will that have some kind of algorithm behind it?

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            #14

            @voxel @loops

            I don't think Loops is part of the Fediverse yet as it's not federating yet?

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            • crosswalk@mastodon.worldC crosswalk@mastodon.world

              @FediTips
              > there isn't any content being ... hidden from you

              Not true.
              I have accounts on different instances and they don't offer me the exact same fediverse.
              That's fine. And I understand why. It's just confusing for new folks.

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              feditips@social.growyourown.services
              wrote on sidst redigeret af feditips@social.growyourown.services
              #15

              @crosswalk

              That's usually because different instances notice different sets of accounts, depending on whether their members have followed them etc. They're not hiding something from you, they just haven't noticed it. 🙂

              The exception would be if an instance blocks another instance, but that's more of a moderation thing than an algorithm type thing?

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                @voxel @loops

                I don't think Loops is part of the Fediverse yet as it's not federating yet?

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                #16

                @FediTips @loops That's true, but many people already consider it as an part of it and I'm interested regarding this

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                • voxel@infosec.spaceV voxel@infosec.space

                  @FediTips @loops That's true, but many people already consider it as an part of it and I'm interested regarding this

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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #17

                  @voxel @loops

                  I know, but until it federates I can't cover it, sorry!

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.s. Just to clarify, this post is mainly aimed at people who are nervous of liking or sharing the wrong thing in case it messes up what is served to them on their timeline (which is what happens on Twitter, Facebook etc).

                    I am trying to reassure them that this DOESN'T happen on the Fediverse.

                    I'm not trying to change the technical defintion of "algorithm", I'm just using that word in the sense that most non-technical people use it, to mean annoying opaque code that messes with timelines 🙂

                    antdesros@jasette.facil.servicesA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    antdesros@jasette.facil.services
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #18

                    @FediTips
                    I think it would be better to say "There's no opaque or hidden algorithm on Mastodon and the Fediverse". Non-technical people would understand and the sentence would at the same time be more accurate.

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                    • antdesros@jasette.facil.servicesA antdesros@jasette.facil.services

                      @FediTips
                      I think it would be better to say "There's no opaque or hidden algorithm on Mastodon and the Fediverse". Non-technical people would understand and the sentence would at the same time be more accurate.

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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af feditips@social.growyourown.services
                      #19

                      @antdesros

                      At least in the English-speaking non-technical world, "algorithm" now means opaque code which messes with social media timelines in unwanted ways for commercial and manipulative purposes.

                      This is pretty much the only context in which non-technical people use the word, at least in English. A common phrase is "escape the algorithm" etc.

                      When trying to reach a mass non-technical audience, IMHO it's more effective to just use the word in the sense the audience uses it.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        @antdesros

                        At least in the English-speaking non-technical world, "algorithm" now means opaque code which messes with social media timelines in unwanted ways for commercial and manipulative purposes.

                        This is pretty much the only context in which non-technical people use the word, at least in English. A common phrase is "escape the algorithm" etc.

                        When trying to reach a mass non-technical audience, IMHO it's more effective to just use the word in the sense the audience uses it.

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                        antdesros@jasette.facil.services
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                        #20

                        @FediTips
                        Is it really less effective if I say "escape the opaque algorithm"?

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                        • antdesros@jasette.facil.servicesA antdesros@jasette.facil.services

                          @FediTips
                          Is it really less effective if I say "escape the opaque algorithm"?

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                          #21

                          @antdesros

                          In my judgement it would be less effective, but that's a personal assessment.

                          Totally understand and respect it if people disagree though.

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