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  3. You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc).

You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc).

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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

    In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

    #FediTips

    orionkidder@mas.toO mostlytato@mstdn.socialM catdragon@mastodon.worldC pteryx@dice.campP june_thalia_michael@literatur.socialJ 5 Replies Last reply
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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

      In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

      #FediTips

      orionkidder@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @FediTips I saw an article last year lamenting that "the young people! they're so delicate! they can't say "dead," so they say "unalive"?!" And like, five minutes of research would tell you why, you dolt. Really seemed like it was just a big lie.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

        In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

        #FediTips

        mostlytato@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @FediTips
        I find it somewhat disrespectful when people try to outwit other users' filters by mis-spelling common topics.
        People filter things for good reason and its not up to anyone else to determine what someone else should be seeing.
        Also, good use of hashtags (accurate, descriptive, but not too many) is really valuable as it allows both follows and blocks so people can curate their timelines properly.

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        • mostlytato@mstdn.socialM mostlytato@mstdn.social

          @FediTips
          I find it somewhat disrespectful when people try to outwit other users' filters by mis-spelling common topics.
          People filter things for good reason and its not up to anyone else to determine what someone else should be seeing.
          Also, good use of hashtags (accurate, descriptive, but not too many) is really valuable as it allows both follows and blocks so people can curate their timelines properly.

          feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @MostlyTato

          It's a good point but I don't think most people are doing it to fool human filters?

          I think they've just picked up these habits from commercial platforms that use automated moderation that suppresses anything mentioning specific words.

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          • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

            @FediTips I saw an article last year lamenting that "the young people! they're so delicate! they can't say "dead," so they say "unalive"?!" And like, five minutes of research would tell you why, you dolt. Really seemed like it was just a big lie.

            feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @OrionKidder

            Yeah, the article totally misunderstands the situation if that's what they think is going on.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

              In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

              #FediTips

              catdragon@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @FediTips language constantly evolves.
              100 years from now how we spoke in the 19th and 20th centuries will be viewed as quaint and antiquated.

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              • catdragon@mastodon.worldC catdragon@mastodon.world

                @FediTips language constantly evolves.
                100 years from now how we spoke in the 19th and 20th centuries will be viewed as quaint and antiquated.

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                @CatDragon

                Slang does constantly change, definitely! 🙂

                The post was meant to be about something a bit different through? It's not about slang but phrases that people don't really want to use, but feel forced to use just to avoid being suppressed by automated moderation.

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

                  In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

                  #FediTips

                  pteryx@dice.campP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @FediTips I've taken to capitalizing "The Algorithm" in the sense of the manipulative sorts of algorithms referred to here. After all, people are referring to a very specific phenomenon with a very specific design goal when they say that, and not to algorithms generally, without which computers simply wouldn't function.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

                    In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

                    #FediTips

                    june_thalia_michael@literatur.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @FediTips Weird spelling or the use of emoji may also impact screenreader use. I haven't tested out myself what "patr€on" sounds like, and while 🍏🍏 may be obvious to (some) sighted users, I'm not sure about anyone else. (Though honestly, it wasn't obvious to me without the context of the post.)

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                    • june_thalia_michael@literatur.socialJ june_thalia_michael@literatur.social

                      @FediTips Weird spelling or the use of emoji may also impact screenreader use. I haven't tested out myself what "patr€on" sounds like, and while 🍏🍏 may be obvious to (some) sighted users, I'm not sure about anyone else. (Though honestly, it wasn't obvious to me without the context of the post.)

                      feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @june_thalia_michael

                      It's a really bad idea to use non-standard characters for stylistic reasons, it does affect screen readers significantly.

                      I think patr€on would sound like "patr" "euro sign" "on".

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                      • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                        @FediTips I've taken to capitalizing "The Algorithm" in the sense of the manipulative sorts of algorithms referred to here. After all, people are referring to a very specific phenomenon with a very specific design goal when they say that, and not to algorithms generally, without which computers simply wouldn't function.

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                        #11

                        @pteryx

                        I think it's useful to treat technical vocab separately in general and technical contexts? Quite often technical terms migrate into a general use with a related but slightly different meaning.

                        When non-tech people say "algorithm" they almost always mean a manipulative opaque system that messes around with their timeline in unclear ways.

                        Another example is "computer", which almost always means a laptop or desktop but technically it could mean a phone, watch, microwave etc etc.

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