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  • viviansequeira@mastodon.worldV viviansequeira@mastodon.world

    @FediTips Should I do that whenever I share music too? Would it be helpful? If so, is it ok to keep it short, similar to movie subtitles?

    Like, I can probably go beyond that, try to be specific about genre/lyrics and how it makes me feel, but I dunno how to describe music technically at all.

    Not sure if it's ok to ask these questions here. Feel free to ignore if not. 😅 /genuine

    I'd be interested in already existing resources on this, if anyone knows of any. 🙂

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    #10

    @viviansequeira

    It's hard to give an exact answer, as it depends on context. Some details may be more important than others depending on why you are posting it.

    There's a similar situation with describing images or video, how much detail is appropriate?

    It might help to think about what you would write if you were describing the music to someone in a letter?

    One thing that is maybe important is that you highlight whatever the main point is, so it doesn't get buried in irrelevant details.

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    • tlisab@zirk.usT tlisab@zirk.us

      @FediTips

      Some ideas:
      - Add some spacing to get more "air" between the letters.
      - Increase font size and use "plain" instead of "bold".
      - Use another colour (spot colour) but not red or green (red green blindness)

      Thanks for your reply 🙂

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      #11

      @TLisaB

      Here is what it used to look like:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20240806141243/https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-find-accounts-to-follow-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-how-do-i-find-my-friends/

      After a few complaints appeared over a longer period of time, I tried switching the font and the complaints stopped.

      I don't know if the people complaining were abled or not, they just said it was hard to read.

      I will try to come up with something that works for everyone if possible! But priority will of course be accessibility for disabled readers.

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @TLisaB

        Here is what it used to look like:

        https://web.archive.org/web/20240806141243/https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-find-accounts-to-follow-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-how-do-i-find-my-friends/

        After a few complaints appeared over a longer period of time, I tried switching the font and the complaints stopped.

        I don't know if the people complaining were abled or not, they just said it was hard to read.

        I will try to come up with something that works for everyone if possible! But priority will of course be accessibility for disabled readers.

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        #12

        @FediTips

        From the tech writer's pov: The problem lies in the equal paragraph spacing. If you would reduce the "space under" between headline and following paragraph but keep the "space above" the whole text might get a better visual structure.
        Have a look at the quick&dirty example I stitched together ...

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        • tlisab@zirk.usT tlisab@zirk.us

          @FediTips

          From the tech writer's pov: The problem lies in the equal paragraph spacing. If you would reduce the "space under" between headline and following paragraph but keep the "space above" the whole text might get a better visual structure.
          Have a look at the quick&dirty example I stitched together ...

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          #13

          @TLisaB

          Thanks so much, that's a really good example! I will try this out!

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          • vnikolov@ieji.deV vnikolov@ieji.de

            The recommendations in section

            What if I’m just posting text? Do I still need to consider accessibility issues?

            are for EVERYBODY'S sake, abled and disabled alike.

            @FediTips

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            #14

            @vnikolov @FediTips

            In text only posts, I could think of

            a) the post language setting should be accurate (multilingual posting in separate chained posts, each with appropriate language setting),

            b) not to many hashtags in the middle of the post (some mark every other word as hashtag), I guess at the end it's fair game.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              It's a really good idea to make your posts accessible:

              - It helps blind, deaf & deafblind people read your post
              - It also helps abled people read your post
              - Accessible posts get more boosts

              Here's a complete guide with step-by-step instructions and also lots of questions answered about this topic:

              ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-make-posts-more-accessible-to-blind-people-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

              As well as adding descriptions to images etc, there are also lots of things you can do to make text-only posts more accessible too.

              #FediTips #Accessibility

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              #15

              @FediTips there's nothing like getting older to make you appreciate good accessibility. Now I'm in my late forties my eyesight is not what it used to be and small or low contrast text can be tough to read. I've started to get arthritis in my hands too which makes me appreciate keyboard navigation when my hands are too stiff to use the mouse.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                It's a really good idea to make your posts accessible:

                - It helps blind, deaf & deafblind people read your post
                - It also helps abled people read your post
                - Accessible posts get more boosts

                Here's a complete guide with step-by-step instructions and also lots of questions answered about this topic:

                ➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-make-posts-more-accessible-to-blind-people-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse

                As well as adding descriptions to images etc, there are also lots of things you can do to make text-only posts more accessible too.

                #FediTips #Accessibility

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                #16

                @FediTips

                Are there any recommendations for sites that could help an able person to judge how accessibility tools render their post? I.e. an online version of common screen readers' text-to-speech engines?

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                • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                  @vnikolov @FediTips

                  In text only posts, I could think of

                  a) the post language setting should be accurate (multilingual posting in separate chained posts, each with appropriate language setting),

                  b) not to many hashtags in the middle of the post (some mark every other word as hashtag), I guess at the end it's fair game.

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                  #17

                  @project1enigma @vnikolov

                  The guide has a whole section on what to do with making text-only posts accessible, this is what Vassil referring to 🙂

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                  • spzb@infosec.exchangeS spzb@infosec.exchange

                    @FediTips there's nothing like getting older to make you appreciate good accessibility. Now I'm in my late forties my eyesight is not what it used to be and small or low contrast text can be tough to read. I've started to get arthritis in my hands too which makes me appreciate keyboard navigation when my hands are too stiff to use the mouse.

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                    #18

                    @spzb

                    Indeed! Everyone is in need of some form of accessibility at some point in their lives.

                    And even if you don't really need it, things like text descriptions and CamelCase make posts easier to understand for everyone.

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                    • spotlightkyd@musicworld.socialS spotlightkyd@musicworld.social

                      @FediTips

                      Are there any recommendations for sites that could help an able person to judge how accessibility tools render their post? I.e. an online version of common screen readers' text-to-speech engines?

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                      @SpotlightKyd

                      Really good question! I'm not sure about that, maybe @WeirdWriter might have recommendations?

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        @project1enigma @vnikolov

                        The guide has a whole section on what to do with making text-only posts accessible, this is what Vassil referring to 🙂

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                        #20

                        @FediTips @vnikolov

                        Ah I guess I completely misunderstood that post as question, sorry.

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                        • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                          @FediTips @vnikolov

                          Ah I guess I completely misunderstood that post as question, sorry.

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                          #21

                          @project1enigma

                          Don't apologise, I would have interpreted it the same way!

                          And it's interesting to read your suggestions 🙂

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            @project1enigma

                            Don't apologise, I would have interpreted it the same way!

                            And it's interesting to read your suggestions 🙂

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                            #22

                            @FediTips

                            If anything is useful it may of course be used. No attribution needed.

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                            • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                              @FediTips

                              If anything is useful it may of course be used. No attribution needed.

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                              #23

                              @project1enigma

                              Thank you, that's really nice! 🙏

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                              • spotlightkyd@musicworld.socialS spotlightkyd@musicworld.social

                                @FediTips

                                Are there any recommendations for sites that could help an able person to judge how accessibility tools render their post? I.e. an online version of common screen readers' text-to-speech engines?

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                                #24

                                Not really for social media posts, mainly websites. The best thing you can do is do your best and listen to feedback from people, but you can use things like an online text to speech generator that will simulate how emojies will sound, as an example. I'd start with places like https://webaim.org/simulations/screenreader @SpotlightKyd @FediTips

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                                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                  Not really for social media posts, mainly websites. The best thing you can do is do your best and listen to feedback from people, but you can use things like an online text to speech generator that will simulate how emojies will sound, as an example. I'd start with places like https://webaim.org/simulations/screenreader @SpotlightKyd @FediTips

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                                  #25

                                  @WeirdWriter @SpotlightKyd

                                  Thanks Robert 🙏

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