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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    ⚠️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:

    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji

    There's more info on the condition itself at:

    ➡️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy

    This is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.

    #FediTips #Safety

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    #28

    @FediTips@social.growyourown.services Let it be said the Netscape blink element aged badly

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    • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

      @FediTips

      Note that 60Hz is also the refresh rate of most screens, so they aren't *capable* of displaying a flash that's too fast to trigger seizures.

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      #29

      @argv_minus_one @FediTips ? the sensitive range mentioned is *lower* than 60 Hz tho! or am I missing something

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      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

        @FediTips

        Note that 60Hz is also the refresh rate of most screens, so they aren't *capable* of displaying a flash that's too fast to trigger seizures.

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        #30

        @argv_minus_one @FediTips

        Yeah, that's got to be wrong... If it triggered seizures, _any_ shared office space would be a major safety hazard.

        Although, on a 60hz CRT, pixel intensity fades between each refresh, causing a constant "flickering wave" across the screen. (Not entire screen at once though.)

        While on 60hz LCD (and similar), the pixels keep the same intensity while waiting for the next update. So no fading in between.

        So that reference to 60hz may be from older tech, maybe?

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          ⚠️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:

          ➡️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji

          There's more info on the condition itself at:

          ➡️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy

          This is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.

          #FediTips #Safety

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          #31

          @FediTips
          >It matters because a lot of people may not be able to prevent autoplay
          There ought to be a browser extension that does that.

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          • light@noc.socialL light@noc.social

            @FediTips
            >It matters because a lot of people may not be able to prevent autoplay
            There ought to be a browser extension that does that.

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            #32

            @FediTips
            In fact, Firefox probably has a setting in about:config to do that.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              p.s. Someone asked what kind of flashing is dangerous, the following might be useful.

              According to https://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/seizure-triggers/photosensitive-epilepsy the frequencies are as follows:

              10 to 25 Hz
              Flash rate range that is most likely to cause a seizure in people with photosensitive epilepsy

              3 Hz
              Slowest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people

              60 Hz
              Fastest flash rate that could trigger a seizure for some people

              (Hz or Hertz is how many times a second the light is flashing)

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              #33

              @FediTips

              One time a house guest went catatonic. The only possible thing I could think of as an external physical trigger was a small flashing light on an electronic keyboard. I immediately thought back to the film Andromeda Strain.

              Misdiagnosis however.

              But I wonder about frame rates, as I can be very prone to motion sickness with certain films and video games.

              Again, probably not related.

              Haven’t seen to much web flashing since HTML 3.0 <blink> 26 + yrs ago.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                ⚠️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:

                ➡️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji

                There's more info on the condition itself at:

                ➡️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy

                This is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.

                #FediTips #Safety

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                #34

                @FediTips

                Would the options in Animations and accessibility be useful here? 🙂

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  ⚠️ DO NOT USE FLASHING IMAGES OR FLASHING EMOJI. Flashing lights can cause seizures and physical danger to people with photosensitive epilepsy. There's more info about this in relation to Mastodon and the wider Fediverse at:

                  ➡️ https://fedi.tips/dont-use-flashing-images-or-emoji

                  There's more info on the condition itself at:

                  ➡️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy

                  This is why so many TV series and films contain warnings at the start if they feature flashing images or flashing lighting.

                  #FediTips #Safety

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                  #35

                  @FediTips flashing and flickering can also be bad for a range of non-epilepsy conditions like migraines, light sensitivity, motion sickness, etc.

                  They're typically not as serious as epilepsy can be, but they're still a thing. The kerb cut effect in action 😁

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                  • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                    @FediTips

                    Would the options in Animations and accessibility be useful here? 🙂

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                    #36

                    @simonzerafa

                    Yes, and they're covered in the guide, but there's a risk that someone views the animation without any restrictions in place (on someone else's device, on a shared link etc).

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                    • baardhaveland@snabelen.noB baardhaveland@snabelen.no

                      @argv_minus_one @FediTips

                      Yeah, that's got to be wrong... If it triggered seizures, _any_ shared office space would be a major safety hazard.

                      Although, on a 60hz CRT, pixel intensity fades between each refresh, causing a constant "flickering wave" across the screen. (Not entire screen at once though.)

                      While on 60hz LCD (and similar), the pixels keep the same intensity while waiting for the next update. So no fading in between.

                      So that reference to 60hz may be from older tech, maybe?

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                      #37

                      @baardhaveland @argv_minus_one

                      Just to be clear, I am not an expert, I am just passing on what advice is given by experts.

                      I think this isn't about refresh rates in general but about high contrast differences in imagery that changes at these rates? So a non-flashing video isn't the problem, but video of a flickering strobe light displayed on any tech would be a problem?

                      As a layperson, I read their advice as meaning the 60hz is highest there has been a danger, but main danger is 10-25hz?

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