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  3. CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

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    #72

    @elronxenu @samk @jamesh @JEmphatically good to know! I’ll try and time my next visit around an election, and demand one of my friends get me a sausage!

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    • nitrml@tyrol.socialN nitrml@tyrol.social

      @JEmphatically do you guys not have a civil register/register of residents? How does your government even know which people exist within its borders?

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      #73

      @nitrml Yes, of course they do. This is politically-driven, ahead of a referendum to separate from Canada. The provincial govt (a sub--national govt) is controlled by the separatists and they are trying to confuse us ahead of the vote. *I corrected this just now.

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      • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

        @nitrml Yes, of course they do. This is politically-driven, ahead of a referendum to separate from Canada. The provincial govt (a sub--national govt) is controlled by the separatists and they are trying to confuse us ahead of the vote. *I corrected this just now.

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        #74

        @JEmphatically oof, that's bad. Here in Austria every citizen who has their current residence recorded in the register of residents automatically is included in the voter lists and could vote, no matter whether they actually do or not.

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        • nitrml@tyrol.socialN nitrml@tyrol.social

          @JEmphatically oof, that's bad. Here in Austria every citizen who has their current residence recorded in the register of residents automatically is included in the voter lists and could vote, no matter whether they actually do or not.

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          #75

          @nitrml My mom has lived in Alberta since 1978, pays her taxes, and has voted in every election - now the rules have changed to add this new ID requirement! Many are not aware of it. I wish we had the attitude of many other countries (besides the US) where voting is encouraged and even mandatory. * corrected - see my note about voting ID requirements.

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            #76

            @lrt_writes That's a big "if" - there are many, many societal pressures on women to change their last name. It would take a while to shift that and in the meantime, who know what other rights would be eroded.* Sure, women can change their behaviour, but we still need to fight any patriarchal decisions that fail to acknowledge the reality of women's lives. *corrected - see my note about voting ID requirements

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            • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

              @lrt_writes That's a big "if" - there are many, many societal pressures on women to change their last name. It would take a while to shift that and in the meantime, who know what other rights would be eroded.* Sure, women can change their behaviour, but we still need to fight any patriarchal decisions that fail to acknowledge the reality of women's lives. *corrected - see my note about voting ID requirements

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              #77

              @JEmphatically you'll get no argument from me ♀️ 💪

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              • newstik@social.heise.deN newstik@social.heise.de

                @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice What if you changed your name just because? Without a marriage. Do you know what they do then?

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                #78

                @newstik @TrueNorthSpice I don't know for sure, but I'd guess you'd have to provide documents showing the name change was done legally. They get to decide what is a valid document though, which is concerning with a provincial government controlled by separatists.

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                • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                  @TrueNorthSpice Oh, and I hear you about not changing your name. I never did and don't regret it, but for those women who choose to do so, it shouldn't put their democratic rights at risk.

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                  #79

                  @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice

                  If you take your spouse's name when you marry, if you're able, get a formal change of name certificate. It's not a big deal, and may save enormous hassle. We don't know how long this Trump nonsense will linger at the state and federal level.

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                  • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

                    @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice

                    If you take your spouse's name when you marry, if you're able, get a formal change of name certificate. It's not a big deal, and may save enormous hassle. We don't know how long this Trump nonsense will linger at the state and federal level.

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                    #80

                    @huntingdon @JEmphatically

                    You are 100 % missing the point.
                    edit; and you're talking at Canadians

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                    • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                      @newstik @TrueNorthSpice I don't know for sure, but I'd guess you'd have to provide documents showing the name change was done legally. They get to decide what is a valid document though, which is concerning with a provincial government controlled by separatists.

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                      #81

                      @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice What kind of document would that be?
                      When you apply for a passport, you just need a witness who has known your under your name for IIRC 2 years.

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                      • newstik@social.heise.deN newstik@social.heise.de

                        @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice What kind of document would that be?
                        When you apply for a passport, you just need a witness who has known your under your name for IIRC 2 years.

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                        #82

                        @newstik @JEmphatically

                        https://mstdn.ca/@JEmphatically/116994180251776620

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                        • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                          @TrueNorthSpice It's a big change to the rules in Alberta and it hasn't been communicated. With only three months to the referendum on separation, it is barely enough time for people to source documents from other jurisdictions.

                          The advertising campaign says nothing about marriage certificates being required for women who've changed their names. This omission from the marketing doesn't seem accidental.

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                          #83

                          @TrueNorthSpice correction, there's an option to vote without using govt-issued ID. At least that's the situation as of today! It's still confusing and the govt ID is still needed for other things, like accessing your online health info.

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                          • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                            @TrueNorthSpice correction, there's an option to vote without using govt-issued ID. At least that's the situation as of today! It's still confusing and the govt ID is still needed for other things, like accessing your online health info.

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                            #84

                            @JEmphatically
                            Thanks for the update 🙂‍

                            There should be the same requirements across every governmeny agency..not this confusing piece work mess.

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                              @JEmphatically
                              Thanks for the update 🙂‍

                              There should be the same requirements across every governmeny agency..not this confusing piece work mess.

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                              #85

                              @TrueNorthSpice agreed.

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                                @JEmphatically
                                Thanks for the update 🙂‍

                                There should be the same requirements across every governmeny agency..not this confusing piece work mess.

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                                #86

                                @TrueNorthSpice you want to know the weirdest thing, I went online to order a mail in ballot for my mom (a lot easier than chauffeuring my mom around to vote) and no ID required at all. Lol. I guess something could still go wrong and I'll update once I receive it in the mail, but...why do we even need these new drivers license and photo ID requirements? Something is up...

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                                • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                  @TrueNorthSpice you want to know the weirdest thing, I went online to order a mail in ballot for my mom (a lot easier than chauffeuring my mom around to vote) and no ID required at all. Lol. I guess something could still go wrong and I'll update once I receive it in the mail, but...why do we even need these new drivers license and photo ID requirements? Something is up...

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                                  #87

                                  @JEmphatically
                                  There was this article

                                  voting rights

                                  https://globalnews.ca/news/11431753/alberta-licence-citizenship-criticism/

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                                  • westcoastmaven@mastodon.socialW westcoastmaven@mastodon.social

                                    @JEmphatically I am fortunate because my sister does currently have a BC ID card. However, I dread trying to get her another BC ID card in 2028, when her current ID runs out. How do I get a bed bound senior - who has her faculties but a limited capability to sit for long in a wheelchair - a new ID? I expect a photo will have to be taken in their office. They make it so frickin’ difficult. #DisenfranchingSeniors

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                                    #88

                                    @Westcoastmaven So true. Even getting my mom into the registry office (so small we had to leave her walker outside) was extremely difficult. The first time we went, we had to leave because the line-up was super long and there was nowhere for her to sit. She's in a small town where there are limited options for registry services. It will take at least three trips to get this ID card that she needs for access to her healthcare information online!

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