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When will there be AI superintelligence?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    When will there be AI superintelligence?

    #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

    evan@cosocial.caE logaldeveloper@infosec.exchangeL boz@mastodon.unoB murph@masto.hackers.townM rxp@mastodon.onlineR 20 Replies Last reply
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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      When will there be AI superintelligence?

      #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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      #2

      https://evanp.me/pollfaq#never

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      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

        When will there be AI superintelligence?

        #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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        #3

        @evan I am an AI superintelligence. I’m just on break.

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        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          When will there be AI superintelligence?

          #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

          boz@mastodon.unoB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @evan The planet will die first.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            When will there be AI superintelligence?

            #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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            #5

            @evan You mean superintelligent, as in smarter then us? Sadly, I think we're going to meet them somewhere in the middle.

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              When will there be AI superintelligence?

              #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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              #6

              @evan define superintelligence? My first Athlon many years ago could do arithmetic a billion times faster than I could. Every computer and computer program is superhuman in some specific way, or we wouldn’t keep making them

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                When will there be AI superintelligence?

                #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

                bignose@sw-development-is.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                I haven't a clue @evan.

                What I am confident of, is that none of today's #AIBubble technology comes anywhere close, nor is it even pointed in the right direction.

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  When will there be AI superintelligence?

                  #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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                  #8
                  @evan There won't. It's all a scam.
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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    When will there be AI superintelligence?

                    #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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                    #9

                    @evan
                    Later... Much later.

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                    • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
                      @evan There won't. It's all a scam.
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                      #10

                      @me

                      Explain! What part is impossible?

                      You don't think it's possible for an entity to be more intelligent than a human?

                      Or is it not possible for a *constructed* entity to be more intelligent than a human?

                      Or are *humans* not smart enough to make a constructed entity that is more intelligent than a human?

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                      • rxp@mastodon.onlineR rxp@mastodon.online

                        @evan define superintelligence? My first Athlon many years ago could do arithmetic a billion times faster than I could. Every computer and computer program is superhuman in some specific way, or we wouldn’t keep making them

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                        #11

                        @rxp https://evanp.me/pollfaq#define

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          @rxp https://evanp.me/pollfaq#define

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                          @rxp

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superintelligence?wprov=sfla1

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                          • boz@mastodon.unoB boz@mastodon.uno

                            @evan The planet will die first.

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                            #13

                            @boz because of all the water and the energy that AI uses?

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                            • beandev@social.tchncs.deB beandev@social.tchncs.de

                              @evan
                              Later... Much later.

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                              #14

                              @beandev explain!

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                              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                @me

                                Explain! What part is impossible?

                                You don't think it's possible for an entity to be more intelligent than a human?

                                Or is it not possible for a *constructed* entity to be more intelligent than a human?

                                Or are *humans* not smart enough to make a constructed entity that is more intelligent than a human?

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                                #15
                                @evan I don't think that it's possible for a glorified pile of linear algebra to think at all.
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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  When will there be AI superintelligence?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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                                  #16

                                  @evan
                                  The 10th of Neveruary.

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                                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                    @boz because of all the water and the energy that AI uses?

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                                    #17

                                    @evan @boz
                                    This and also the current speed of the climate change.
                                    Hardware costs for one (it's true that LLM companies can incur into massive amounts of debt to finance it but not forever)
                                    Food and unstable weather after, will for sure disrupt people's life and their will to work.

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                                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                      @boz because of all the water and the energy that AI uses?

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                                      #18

                                      @boz@mastodon.uno @evan@cosocial.ca

                                      Pretty sure they mean like, in general

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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        When will there be AI superintelligence?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll #ai #superintelligence

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                                        #19

                                        @evan It's impossible to answer this without specific definitions of "AI" and "superintelligence". If AI is something that can write text and draw pictures in a way that is superficially like human output, and superintelligence means that it can do that faster than a human, then we've got it already. If not, then the answer is some time between tomorrow and never, depending on those definitions.

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                                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                          @beandev explain!

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                                          @evan
                                          In the context of "AI = LLM", never. In context of "AI = whatever we will find as technology" we will need decades to have the technology to simulate at least a simple brain (much simpler than a human brain).

                                          The reason is that the neural networks that we map in silicon today make up only a fraction of a brain. Countless elements that make up our thinking, our consciousness, and our self-awareness are missing. Even our senses, which are necessary for these, can currently only be represented in a rudimentary way.

                                          Currently, we only emulate knowledge through high speed and parallelization. But we have clear limits in this regard with ressources.

                                          And knowledge is not intelligence. It is also only simulated.

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