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  3. If you're a white person on the Fediverse and you've never seen someone called a slur, or threats made against them--congratulations!

If you're a white person on the Fediverse and you've never seen someone called a slur, or threats made against them--congratulations!

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  • mxalba@blahaj.zoneM mxalba@blahaj.zone

    @dalias@hachyderm.io @Rhube@wandering.shop @dave@alvarado.social

    Of course that also would technically block people from privately responding to a public message...

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    @MxAlba @Rhube @dave Only if the public message has a reply control preventing that. In which case if you really want to reference it in a DM you can just include a link or quote (if quoting permission allows that).

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      @flesh @pierrenick @dave you’re coming up with a hypothetical that sinply doesn’t matter in real usage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      removed replies on Bluesky (unless th OP outright blocked the accounts posting) are still visible but hidden by default, so you can see what got removed (these also include moderated removal of low-quality replies, such as stuff that’s just expletives)

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      #103

      @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io @pierrenick@hachyderm.io @dave@alvarado.social Well, that's less bad than first expected.
      I still don't think such tools are entirely abuse-proof.
      And do you have any evidence that such potential abuse positively doesn't matter other than "I haven't noticed it"?

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      • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #104

        @dave

        No, using reporting. To mods. Its not public. I dont understand.

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          #105

          @dave

          But mods can see all the posts, and reporting is not public.

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          • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

            @dave

            No, using reporting. To mods. Its not public. I dont understand.

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            #106

            @kevinrns ah. Reporting to mods is not what I'm describing in that second example. I'm talking about posting screenshots to prove to people that harassment is happening.

            Reporting to mods doesn't stop harassment because most harassment is from sock puppet accounts.

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            • mxalba@blahaj.zoneM mxalba@blahaj.zone

              @Anne_Delong@musician.social @fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk @dave@alvarado.social

              I have follow approval switched on because I don't want creeps following me. I do have it set that if I already follow you, you don't need approval to follow me...

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              @MxAlba @fishidwardrobe @dave

              That sounds sensible.

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              • mkljczk@pl.fediverse.plM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @shlee @dave

                >Followers only should be your curated, locked down followers list, but also everyone following the one person you’ve mentioned that doesn’t moderate their followers at all.

                This would be absolutely disastrous for user safety.
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                  #109

                  @fishidwardrobe
                  Mastodon client app makers can also add that setting on their app, @apps @Tusky which would be useful if mastodon dev dismiss the problem.

                  @julesbl @dave

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                    @dave

                    @flippac i shared ages ago how this happens with folks targeting trans and/or disabled folks and/ or BIPOC, and all it did was jumpstart more harassment and nothing changed. some servers still don't give a fuck so reporting doesn't work either.

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                    • dragonfi@social.jsteuernagel.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @dave So, you say that followers only does not extend to followers of "@"-ed people? This sounds like a bug to me.

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