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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

    * enable developer options
    * confirm that you are not tricked
    * restart phone and re-authenticate
    * wait one day
    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
    * confirm that you accept the risks
    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #199

    @grote@chaos.social What a fucking dumpsterfire, well I guess it's time to develop a RISC-V operating system for phones that is actually open source, and deploy open hardware infrastructure hosted by actual human beings and not FUCKING CORPORATIONS to support international communications with them.
    Though in fairness I guess if that even happened corporations would lobby to regulate against it so we'd be fucked anyway
    ​​
    Also idk how we'd do transatlantic shit... I hate the world.

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

      kimby@misskey.artK This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #200

      @grote@chaos.social Using third party apps that are not in PlayStore is a hacker thing now?

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day
        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
        * confirm that you accept the risks
        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #201

        @grote

        calling it "sideloading" is already an insult. it's not a sideloading, it's installing an app like we used to (and still do) install apps on PC forever. inventing scary slurs is a psychological trick that we should not accept.

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day
          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
          * confirm that you accept the risks
          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #202

          @grote So they decided to make it more complicated than installing a free Android distribution.

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          • ziclaud@mastodon.socialZ ziclaud@mastodon.social

            *Cries in Redmi phones* (they're not allowing me to unlock the bootloader 💀)

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #203

            @ziclaud

            You need to make a xiaomi account and bind it to your device. It has a 24+h wait, allegedly. I have no idea how it works, though, I have never done it.

            I'd recommend using something else than a phone. 🫠

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #204

              @grote they're stepping back a lot so the pushback is clearly working, keep it up until we get rid of this entirely

              i must admit, this is a lot better than what i thought their "advanced flow" would be. don't give them a single inch though, if this is implemented it'll be the first step towards fully killing off installing the apps you want to use on your device that you paid for

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              • tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT tedmielczarek@mastodon.social

                @tehstu @grote bold of you to assume that multibillion-dollar companies play by the same rules as average developers. If Apple locked down macOS installation to the App Store Google would just call them up and negotiate an exception (if Apple didn't just build one in from the outset).

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #205

                @tedmielczarek @grote You put more thought into the joke than I did, to be fair.

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #206
                  @grote I mean, at that point using adb is kinda easier
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                  • dusk@nou.fai.stD dusk@nou.fai.st
                    @grote I mean, at that point using adb is kinda easier
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                    #207

                    @dusk https://chaos.social/@grote/116257742125864690

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      They even have a video up where they try to make this all sound nice and positive:

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                      paradox@social.tchncs.de
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #208

                      @grote
                      Not watching it. Thank you

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day
                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #209

                        @grote I'm very thankful to google for covering the incredibly common case where I'm forced at gunpoint to install a malicious apk. Now such attacks will require attackers to kidnap me for a couple of days, which severely limits their options.

                        We can finally break the cycle of coercion where after being scammed into installing an apk, I started scamming people into installing apks.

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                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                          * enable developer options
                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                          * wait one day
                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #210

                          @grote it will REQUIRE biometrics? See, @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 this is what I mean. Whole world wants to put biometrics in everything. It's nonsense

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                          • kevinrns@mstdn.socialK kevinrns@mstdn.social

                            @raymaccarthy @utf_7 @grote

                            Dont use bank apps. Find a Credit Union

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #211

                            @kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
                            That won't work.

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                              judeswae@toot.thoughtworks.com
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #212

                              @grote I guess I'd be fine with the rest, but wait one day... geez, are you kidding me?

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                              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                * enable developer options
                                * confirm that you are not tricked
                                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                * wait one day
                                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                * confirm that you accept the risks
                                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #213
                                @grote I think this is what people in the industry would call "a steaming pile of horseshit"
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                                • ziclaud@mastodon.socialZ ziclaud@mastodon.social

                                  *Cries in Redmi phones* (they're not allowing me to unlock the bootloader 💀)

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #214

                                  @ziclaud depends on the device. My Redmi Note 11 took two attempts before I could finally unlock the bootloader, I had to wait 2 weeks because I clicked twice on the Mi Unlock tool.

                                  You need a Xiaomi account, insert a SIM card into your phone, use that phone number for the Xiaomi account, then you can start the verification process. It's horrible, but it can be done.

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                                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                    * enable developer options
                                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                    * wait one day
                                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #215
                                    I thought this was a joke
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                                    • eldaking@weirder.earthE eldaking@weirder.earth

                                      @grote I'm very thankful to google for covering the incredibly common case where I'm forced at gunpoint to install a malicious apk. Now such attacks will require attackers to kidnap me for a couple of days, which severely limits their options.

                                      We can finally break the cycle of coercion where after being scammed into installing an apk, I started scamming people into installing apks.

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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #216

                                      @grote "In these scenarios, scammers exploit fear – using threats of financial ruin, legal trouble, or harm to a loved one – to create a sense of extreme urgency."

                                      In these scenarios, Google exploits fear – using threats of financial ruin, legal trouble, or harm to a loved one – to justify taking control over your phone.

                                      "According to a 2025 report from the Global Anti-Scam Alliance (GASA), 57% of surveyed adults experienced a scam in the past year, resulting in a global consumer loss of $442 billion."

                                      We don't have any data on harm being caused specifically by sideloading apps, so here is some completely unrelated data that is very worrying.

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day
                                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #217

                                        @grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.

                                        why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?

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                                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                          * enable developer options
                                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                          * wait one day
                                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #218

                                          @grote this really amps up linux phones. android was already a pain in the ass, what's the point of using it with all that? Might as well get the cheap apple phones

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