If you’re still using Proton mail:

[zzt@mas.to]

@slothrop holy shit, proton’s reply is very visibly LLM slop. they’re not even trying anymore.

[phillip@social.lol]

@slothrop @nileane I archived their AI-ass response just in case

https://web.archive.org/web/20260608152522/https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/can_someone_from_protonmail_clarify_this_matter/oqgihvq/

[joe@toot.works]

@slothrop Got a screenshot? Reddit blocks me from seeing Reddit, so I can't read it.

[troed@swecyb.com]

@Infoseepage Proton literally screwed up their vetting, owns the mistake and will correct their procedure from now on.

Have you ever worked at a company?

https://swecyb.com/@troed/116715084906078611

@gatogatogato @gotofritz @slothrop

[troed@swecyb.com]

@Infoseepage

No they didn't "LOL"

Read more. Post less.

"The response wasn't written with the help of AI, I (the person replying to you right now) personally wrote it. Unless you mean to imply I myself am AI... "

(from the Reddit thread - which also includes comments from people who know that AIs are trained on how PR people write which, incidently, is why output from PR persons sound that way ... and yes, the same department I worked at also had the Developer Communication _PR and marketing trained_ people and that's what it looks like)

@gatogatogato @gotofritz @slothrop

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@joe a kind soul archived Proton’s response for posterity:

https://web.archive.org/web/20260608152522/https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/can_someone_from_protonmail_clarify_this_matter/

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@phillip @nileane Thanks!

[cyberpunker@mastodon.social]

@slothrop From the Reddit post "...while our services are available to everyone regardless of political views.."

Proton will never get any money from me nor will i recommend them.

[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop I opened an issue and got the following response (in German) from Proton:

Hallo,

Dies ist eine Folge-E-Mail.

Wir möchten Ihnen wichtige Hintergrundinformationen zu diesem Vorfall geben.

Der Kanal von Vincent Lapierre hätte niemals Teil unseres Partner- und Sponsoringprogramms sein dürfen, da wir bewusst Verbindungen zu Kanälen vermeiden, deren Inhalte von unserer Botschaft ablenken und unsere Community spalten könnten.

1/x

[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop
Proton ist weltweit tätig, und obwohl unsere Dienstleistungen allen unabhängig von politischen Ansichten zur Verfügung stehen und unsere Mission überall dieselbe ist, ist unser Wissen über die jeweilige lokale Medienlandschaft nicht überall gleich. In diesem Fall verfügte unser Team nicht über genügend Informationen zum französischen Medienmarkt, um eine fundierte Entscheidung zu treffen, und das geht auf unsere Kappe.

Wir möchten außerdem klarstellen, was eine solche Platzierung ist und was nicht. Eine Partner- oder Sponsoringvereinbarung ist eine transaktionale Platzierung zur Steigerung der Bekanntheit, keine Unterstützung der Ansichten eines Content-Creators. Im Fall von Vincent Lapierre handelte es sich um ein Sponsoring eines einzelnen Videos, nicht um eine Partnerschaft.

[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop
Diese Unterscheidung entschuldigt jedoch nicht, was hier geschehen ist. Es liegt in unserer Verantwortung, die Partner, mit denen wir zusammenarbeiten, sorgfältig zu prüfen, und dieser Verantwortung sind wir dieses Mal nicht gerecht geworden. Wir überprüfen nun unseren Auswahlprozess und unsere Richtlinien für Marketingagenturen, um sicherzustellen, dass dies nicht wieder vorkommt.

Sollten Sie erneut einen solchen Vorfall beobachten, informieren Sie uns bitte. Wir sind auf Ihr Feedback und Ihre Aufmerksamkeit angewiesen.

3/3

[dngrs@chaos.social]

@Phracker2Art it's neither silly nor counterproductive. Money is power, endorsement (by being a sponsor) lends credibility, and so on.

[hearth@plush.city]

@slothrop @joe It looks like reddit might be doing something that prevents the wayback machine from working, because this doesn't load, even on a clean firefox instance.
-F

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@selflesssloth das ist einfach der Text des Reddit-Posts in deutscher Übersetzung

[david@social.piconet.work]

@slothrop That post isn’t researched at all. Just an immediate reaction from someone who saw a sponsorship claim.

[meduz@m.nintendojo.fr]

@theeclecticdyslexic @nileane @slothrop The guy is a French video-maker, active at least on YouTube. I discovered his existence when stumbling on a long video he made about Brussels. It took me 1 min. to suspect it was shady far-right propaganda, and a couple of additional minutes to have confirmation.

[slothrop@chaos.social]

@david are you fucking serious, or at least believe yourself to be??!

What kind of “research” do you find necessary if a fucking Nazi says “I’d like to thank Proton for their support”, and Proton follows up by saying “yeah, we supported that Nazi, but it was a mistake”?

You seem to propose a standard of thoroughness that you yourself are a couple of galaxies away from meeting.

[david@social.piconet.work]

@slothrop If you looked into it you’d see there was more to it than that. It was a mistake on the part of Proton and they admitted the mistake. The left needs not to become as bad as the right by jumping to extreme reactions. And insulting me won’t make anything better for anyone. You don’t judge anyone to an extreme degree for a single mistake. That’s what the right do.

[labtoast@social.nouveau.community]

@tempusfelix @slothrop
```
STA:> SAME
STA:> I'm SO MAD
DIR:> Just adding "custom SMTP server" to the pile of tasks towards a personal tech stack.
CNJ:> I think it's important to take action about these things at one's own pace, does no good to burn oneself out.
DIR:> When I have the energy, I will commence the journey for a different email provider.
```

[selflesssloth@social.tchncs.de]

@slothrop jo, stimmt... den hatte ich noch nicht gesehen. Well...