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  3. In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

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  • szczot3k@milliways.socialS szczot3k@milliways.social

    @cwebber same vibes (pun intended) as xkcd 3160

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    #34

    @szczot3k @cwebber Another relevant (on theme of what could possibly go wrong if you give too much autonomy to an agent): 416

    > "Laptop: Notifying field agents. Children acquired. Calling Lenhart parents. Negotiating for WiFi password..."

    https://xkcd.com/416/

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    • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

      @cwebber Actually, the more I think about it, this may be the logical conclusion to linkdin; Just people's unrestricted shadow agents vomiting corporate jargon at each other and randomly trading job titles with each other

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      #35

      @brad @cwebber

      In the end, we created a secure messaging platform for the movement, hidden in plain sight.

      Corporate social media had long been slopped to the point of uselessness, nobody asked why you posted anything, because nobody was there to ask.
      They liked and boosted and reshared the posts nonetheless.

      We didn't need strong cryptography, or even custom software.
      We just wrote what we thought and felt, but replaced "billionaires" with "competitors", "blow up" with "buyout", "revolution" with "investment" and so on.

      They never saw it coming.

      #microfiction

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Gonna go get myself a VibeMBA 😎

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        #36

        @cwebber you know MVA was sitting RIGHT THERE

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        • dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems

          @unlofl @cwebber I argued a lot that AI hype was more like cloud than crypto, until the moltbook thing. That really felt like the NFT moment. I'll eat my hat on that one.

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          #37

          @dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

          Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

          AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

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          • vv@solarpunk.moeV vv@solarpunk.moe

            @cwebber okay but the problem is folks who unknowingly get their data ingested by this system just for being a customer 😱

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            #38

            @vv Yeah that's true. The unfortunate thing is the "blast radius" of powerful using these tools. And with war, unfortunately, that can be quite literal 😞

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            • unlofl@mstdn.socialU unlofl@mstdn.social

              @dvshkn @cwebber Its definitely more "real" than crypto, but I'd argue much less "real" than cloud computing.

              Everyone always knew cloud infrastructure was worth something, it was the future of colocation and leasing servers. What no one was sure of was the adoption rate, or how much would be kept on-prem for various reasons.

              AI is... well, it does SOMETHING, but what is it worth? When will it get good at what? For how many things is the answer "never?"

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              #39

              @unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

              But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

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              • dvshkn@social.treehouse.systemsD dvshkn@social.treehouse.systems

                @unlofl @cwebber Not to get too into it, but there was a lot of promising that the cloud would automatically scale any application (lol). I found that pretty similar to the AI hype of all jobs are going away.

                But this new wave of hype (and the spam, ugh) is very crypto-like, I'll admit.

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                #40

                @dvshkn @cwebber oh dang, missed that hype. I currently work balls-deep in piles of containers, but there is definitely no way in hell random existing applications were going to scale like that stateless stuff.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

                  Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

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                  #41

                  @cwebber what in the precious ever loving fuck 😭 make it stop

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    Frankly this rules. I can't wait to see what happens to everyone who uses this. It's gonna be awesome.

                    Everyone who installs this fucking thing deserves it at this point. Burn it all down.

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                    #42

                    Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                    Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      In truly one of the worst use cases I could imagine for this tech, behold, DenchClaw, an OpenClaw based CRM https://github.com/DenchHQ/DenchClaw

                      Just put all your customer relationship information in there, run your business out of it, what could possibly go wrong

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                      #43

                      @cwebber I think it's naive to even start with the assumption that there is an actor with good intentions behind this.

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                        Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                        #44

                        @cwebber if you aren't doing anything bad, then you don't need to steal credentials (?

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                          Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                          #45

                          @cwebber
                          "information wants to be free!"
                          *chasing after my SSN and bank account numbers*
                          "get back here you cheeky little fuckers!"

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                            Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                            #46

                            Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                              Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                              #47

                              @cwebber I never understand that like I hope they keep their bank info private.... Unless they want to give me money that's cool

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                                #48

                                @cwebber
                                All my apes, all openclawed.

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                  Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                                  #49

                                  @cwebber "everybody has something to hide, like for example the credentials for taking money out of their bank account" is a weirdly hard thing to put across sometimes

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                                  • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                                    @cwebber
                                    All my apes, all openclawed.

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                                    #50

                                    @silvermoon82 openclawed right from my hands

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      @silvermoon82 openclawed right from my hands

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                                      #51

                                      @cwebber
                                      My agents knew me as this ape!

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Christ I never thought I'd say this but I wish the NFT craze was still going right now. Absolutely all these people would find a whole new way for all their apes to be gone

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                                        #52

                                        @cwebber “great question! I know it might seem shocking to you that I have spent all of your savings on a jpeg of the worst picrew you’ve ever seen. Here is why it’s a genius investment: Not only is the token not fungible,

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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          Look the "you don't need privacy if you've got nothing to hide" guy shows up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47313376

                                          Also hi even if that were somehow true (it isn't) do you know anything about credentials

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                                          #53

                                          @cwebber Read that comment and... wtaf? 'I feel like the average person is going to be like "oh no it'd be terrible if everyone found out I really like the 'big boobs' category on pornhub"' um, yes idiot dude on the internet, this does legit freak people out? Which they're allowed to do?

                                          I know these people have a hard time with the idea "I am not the center of the universe" and therefore potential social consequences, but still. Really?

                                          People really don't give HN the shit it deserves.

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