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  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

    saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #68

    @tg

    this looks like a good place to plug

    https://marginalia-search.com/explore

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    • jake4480@c.imJ jake4480@c.im

      @tg HELL yes. Been working on a piece about this myself, collecting up articles and such for it, like this one! Great piece - 💯

      tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #69

      @jake4480 i shall read it when you post it! been subb'd for a while

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      • spinni81@mastodon.socialS spinni81@mastodon.social

        @tg Now I feel old because the Internet I grew up on is the old rusty bits.

        tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        tg@indieweb.social
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        #70

        @spinni81 me, too

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        • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

          crittero@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #71

          @aeva @tg To be fair... it was always like this. The only thing that's changed is the spammers have a lot more compute power now. But even when I was a young guy on gaming forums, an unmoderated forum would succumb to "enhancing pills" spam in less than a week. And they still do.

          Self-hosting is still fun and valid. The internet is just noisier, because there are a lot more people on it.

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          • virkon42@det.socialV virkon42@det.social

            @tg I am really glad, that there is the ascii view. I pretty much hate this animation.

            tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #72

            @virkon42 of course, and i know!

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            • botolo86@mstdn.socialB botolo86@mstdn.social

              @tg you forgot the BBS systems. Some of them are still there and quite active.

              tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #73

              @botolo86 oh, i didn't forget, they just didn't make it into this one

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              • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                @tg

                <blink></blink>

                tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #74

                @n_dimension bring it back!

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                • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                  @tg ok wow this page is a javascript crime. worse than normal text would be for no reason

                  tg@indieweb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  tg@indieweb.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #75

                  @hsza for some reason - and that is because the web is free and i can do what i want. there's an ascii version

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                  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                    miff@fedi.miffthefox.infoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    miff@fedi.miffthefox.info
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #76

                    @tg@indieweb.social The legal environment around the net changed though. Gone are the days where you can set up an independent community by renting a cheap VPS, standing up phpBB and calling it a day- now you have to worry about getting legally wrecked from copyright (Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market), CASM (FOSTA-SESTA), and ID (Online Safety Act) law.

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                    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                      @hsza for some reason - and that is because the web is free and i can do what i want. there's an ascii version

                      hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      hsza@social.tudbut.de
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #77

                      @tg well yes of course but it’s logical to want your essays to be easy to read (so people read them), this is not quite that

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                      • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                        @tg well yes of course but it’s logical to want your essays to be easy to read (so people read them), this is not quite that

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                        #78

                        @hsza but i think it look cool

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                        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                          @hsza but i think it look cool

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                          #79

                          @tg yk what, fair enough, you do you lol

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                          • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                            @tg yk what, fair enough, you do you lol

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                            #80

                            @hsza honestly that's all i can do!

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                            • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                              📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                              The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                              A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                              https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                              n8dly@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #81

                              @tg Thanks, Terry. That did make me feel better.

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                              • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                acka47@openbiblio.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #82

                                @tg Thanks for this essay! At the German librarian convention #bibliocon26 , I will soon be advocating for more participation in web standards work and I am tempted to take over some of the thinking. Sometimes I believe, libraries do not want to give anyone the opportunity to call them "boring" and that's why so many are chasing the latest hypes, like currently AI. Why not just embrace being boring, essential knowledge infrastructure and also start supporting boring standards work?

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                                • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                  @jake4480 i shall read it when you post it! been subb'd for a while

                                  jake4480@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #83

                                  @tg oh awesome thank you- really gotta get it out! 😂

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                                  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                    thelancashireman@hostux.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    thelancashireman@hostux.social
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                                    #84

                                    @tg

                                    MAGA - Make Archie Great Again!

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                                    • thelancashireman@hostux.socialT thelancashireman@hostux.social

                                      @tg

                                      MAGA - Make Archie Great Again!

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                                      #85

                                      @tg

                                      The old "platforms" were better too.
                                      ftp:sunsite.unc.edu was great. There was another that I can't recall offhand.
                                      Also the crusty Demon Internet (UK) service for nntp.

                                      FWIW I have my own low-volume blog with RSS. Maybe I should use it more.

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                                      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                        📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                        The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                        A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                        https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                        guffo@topspicy.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        guffo@topspicy.social
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                                        #86

                                        @tg Excellent! That sums up what my brain has been orbiting for some time.

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                                        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                          📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                          The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                          A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                          https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                          kochiko@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          kochiko@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #87

                                          @tg wow!
                                          I checked the command and it is really work!
                                          You inspired me to know about old technology. Thank you)

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