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  • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

    In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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    #10

    @SteveBellovin

    I feel this need to be celebrated MORE AND MORE OFTEN WITH MORE POMP!

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    • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

      In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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      #11

      @SteveBellovin
      "And we were shooting nazis, which was the style at the time"

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      • harkank@chaos.socialH harkank@chaos.social

        Gentlemen, here is a logo that my daughter who is a graphic designer produced for the likes of us. 😎 @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa
        @bert_hubert

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        #12

        @harkank

        Gentlemen only, huh.

        @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

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        • harkank@chaos.socialH harkank@chaos.social

          Gentlemen, here is a logo that my daughter who is a graphic designer produced for the likes of us. 😎 @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa
          @bert_hubert

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          #13

          To keep a good ol' German meme pattern going
          "Alt und tattrig, trotzdem da - engagierte Senioren Antifa"

          There is "Omas gegen Rechts" for example, for those unaware that this is a thing in Germany.

          @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert
          @benroyce

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          • truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT truenorthspice@mastodon.world

            @harkank

            Gentlemen only, huh.

            @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

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            #14

            @TrueNorthSpice he was addressing the previous posters, but the general club is open for all. I guess you'll find something like this anywhere in any country that needs them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omas_gegen_Rechts
            @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

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            • tom_ofb@23.socialT tom_ofb@23.social

              @TrueNorthSpice he was addressing the previous posters, but the general club is open for all. I guess you'll find something like this anywhere in any country that needs them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omas_gegen_Rechts
              @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

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              #15

              @Tom_ofB @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

              Sorry I misunderstood the public setting.

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              • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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                #16

                @SteveBellovin Dont you know that the USSR was the country which really defeat fascism instead of the US which financed them, some American busness people financed the Nazis.

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                • tom_ofb@23.socialT tom_ofb@23.social

                  To keep a good ol' German meme pattern going
                  "Alt und tattrig, trotzdem da - engagierte Senioren Antifa"

                  There is "Omas gegen Rechts" for example, for those unaware that this is a thing in Germany.

                  @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert
                  @benroyce

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                  #17

                  @Tom_ofB @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

                  "Old and frail, yet still there – committed senior Antifa members"

                  "Grannies Against the Right"

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                  • E elorti5@mastodon.social

                    @SteveBellovin Dont you know that the USSR was the country which really defeat fascism instead of the US which financed them, some American busness people financed the Nazis.

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                    #18

                    @elorti5 That story is far more complex. Yes, there was noticeable pro-Nazi sentiment in parts of the US and the UK. There was also considerable anti-Nazi sentiment in both countries, including by Churchill and Roosevelt. (And the US had a lot of isolationist sentiment, independent of pro-Nazi types. It is likely that Roosevelt would have entered the war sooner were it not for the isolationists, including in his own party—but the state of the US military was such that it was known in *1940* that a major attack on the European continent couldn't take place until 1944—and Stalin kept begging the US and the UK to launch a second front to reduce the pressure on his forces.) Yes, there USSR suffered far more casualties, and if Hitler hadn't decided to attack the USSR it's far from clear that D-Day could have succeeded. But the USSR and the UK benefited hugely from the output of American industry, and it's far from clear that either could have held out without that, especially once the US entered the war after Germany declared war on the US following the attack on Pearl Harbor.
                    This is a subject on which I've done a lot of reading—and as I said, it's quite complex. But you're certainly right that few people in the US understand the importance of the Soviet fight, or the losses they took.

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                    • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                      In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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                      #19

                      @SteveBellovin Fascism is always a losing gambit thankfully. I think the losers are really scared of their impending doom. They should be.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @Tom_ofB @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

                        "Old and frail, yet still there – committed senior Antifa members"

                        "Grannies Against the Right"

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                        #20

                        @benroyce the main point of the meme is that it must rhyme.

                        (something ironic) trotzdem da
                        (something something) Antifa

                        trotzdem da, meaning showing up in spite of whatever.

                        These often go with banger logos, I tried to find a link for you, but didn't find a good single source. image seaching "trotzdem da antifa" brings up a few. I forgot when we had the last thread in my bubble.

                        @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

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                        • tom_ofb@23.socialT tom_ofb@23.social

                          @benroyce the main point of the meme is that it must rhyme.

                          (something ironic) trotzdem da
                          (something something) Antifa

                          trotzdem da, meaning showing up in spite of whatever.

                          These often go with banger logos, I tried to find a link for you, but didn't find a good single source. image seaching "trotzdem da antifa" brings up a few. I forgot when we had the last thread in my bubble.

                          @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

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                          #21

                          @Tom_ofB @harkank @SteveBellovin @Cdespinosa @bert_hubert

                          and even better shouted by thousands

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                          • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                            In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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                            #22

                            @SteveBellovin My Uncle Alf landed there, toting a bazooka, fought his way across Europe destroying Nazis.

                            He was a conservative farmer, and would be absolutely furious with today's "conservatives" supporting Nazi fascism in the USA.

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                            • cobalt123@beige.partyC cobalt123@beige.party

                              @harkank for meeeee too! @SrRochardBunson

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                              #23

                              @cobalt123 @harkank yesss!!!

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                              • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                                In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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                                #24

                                @SteveBellovin
                                My grandfather was in the air that day. 388th bomb group, 8th air force.
                                Clearing a path for a fascist free Europe.

                                Thanks for the post.

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                                • oclsc@mstdn.caO oclsc@mstdn.ca

                                  @SteveBellovin I hear Hegseth is rooting for the other site.

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                                  #25

                                  @oclsc @SteveBellovin Or he thinks he doesn't want this brand of wokeness in our military. We need to be focused on lethality, not a larger ideological mission, especially not one based on the woke ideas of 17th and 18th century philosophers. The more I think about it, he might actually root for the other side.

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                                  • E elorti5@mastodon.social

                                    @SteveBellovin Dont you know that the USSR was the country which really defeat fascism instead of the US which financed them, some American busness people financed the Nazis.

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                                    #26

                                    @elorti5 This particular viewpoint omits the entirety of the Pacific campaign, as well as most of what happened in North Africa.

                                    It's called a "world war" for a reason. There were a lot of fascists all around the globe, defeated by many nations that all played a role.

                                    @SteveBellovin

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                                    • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                                      @elorti5 That story is far more complex. Yes, there was noticeable pro-Nazi sentiment in parts of the US and the UK. There was also considerable anti-Nazi sentiment in both countries, including by Churchill and Roosevelt. (And the US had a lot of isolationist sentiment, independent of pro-Nazi types. It is likely that Roosevelt would have entered the war sooner were it not for the isolationists, including in his own party—but the state of the US military was such that it was known in *1940* that a major attack on the European continent couldn't take place until 1944—and Stalin kept begging the US and the UK to launch a second front to reduce the pressure on his forces.) Yes, there USSR suffered far more casualties, and if Hitler hadn't decided to attack the USSR it's far from clear that D-Day could have succeeded. But the USSR and the UK benefited hugely from the output of American industry, and it's far from clear that either could have held out without that, especially once the US entered the war after Germany declared war on the US following the attack on Pearl Harbor.
                                      This is a subject on which I've done a lot of reading—and as I said, it's quite complex. But you're certainly right that few people in the US understand the importance of the Soviet fight, or the losses they took.

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                                      #27

                                      @SteveBellovin It's a story that is nearly always brushed under the rug. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/the-soviet-union-helped-save-the-world-from-hitler-a7020926.html @elorti5

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                                      • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                                        In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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                                        #28

                                        @SteveBellovin that's November 9th

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                                        • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                                          In honor of June 6, International Antifa Day.

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                                          #29

                                          @SteveBellovin This image has been in heads of the electorate every time the nation went into the next war.

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