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As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

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  • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

    As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

    Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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    #27

    @rgegriff look, the whole *point* of running linux is so i know none of my shit works but also *why*

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    • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

      @kevinrns @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff I love immigrants, which is a good thing as I live in Leicester

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      #28

      @aadeacon @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff

      The Irish and Scots welcomed Celtic immigrants when they came.

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        @rgegriff look, the whole *point* of running linux is so i know none of my shit works but also *why*

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        #29

        @davidgerard @rgegriff the people responsible for my sorrow have names and email addresses

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        • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

          As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

          Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

          crowsinger@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @rgegriff Evil. They’re doing evil in evil ways.

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          • thecrawford@mastodonapp.ukT thecrawford@mastodonapp.uk

            @T045T @rgegriff are they vibe coding updates?

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            #31

            @thecrawford @T045T @rgegriff slop coding.

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            • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

              As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

              Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

              rupertreynolds@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32

              @rgegriff Power corrupts. MS acts as though it owns our hardware and data, and has the right to open a tap on our bank accounts, when and as often as it likes, witholding access if we don't do what we're told.

              Echoing Doctorow's words, the 1990s Internet connected us *directly* with things we wanted to access. MS, Amazon, Google, Facebook and so on try to insert themselves between us and the things we want, free of charge at first until there is a cost of leaving, then they slowly turn the thumbscrews, charging us for what we once had freely.

              We don't need them. But they are good at confusing us.

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              • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                abbiistabbii@blahaj.zoneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #33

                @rgegriff@masto.hackers.town Point them to Linux Mint.

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                • clew@ecoevo.socialC clew@ecoevo.social

                  Don’t know enough to guess but I’m curious. What?

                  (BeOS. An unsecured login to a FORTRAN server somewhere in Mountain Time. Your Lenovo refrigerator, overclocked. ??)

                  @SoftwareTheron
                  @rgegriff

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                  #34

                  @clew
                  Ubuntu... sorry to be so boring.

                  The Lenovo box would at least have the advantage of good cooling systems, I suppose.

                  @rgegriff

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                    @clew
                    Ubuntu... sorry to be so boring.

                    The Lenovo box would at least have the advantage of good cooling systems, I suppose.

                    @rgegriff

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                    #35

                    And some of them have big screens and the snacks are _right there_.

                    @SoftwareTheron @rgegriff

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                    • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                      As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                      Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

                      dickon@splodge.fluff.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #36

                      @rgegriff 'Umm, my computer isn't working too well, and I need something better. What's this Linux thing you keep talking about?'

                      My father, about 20y ago.

                      It's OK. I pointed him at OS X -- he's been happy since...

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                      • sungo@social.sungo.spaceS sungo@social.sungo.space

                        @rgegriff If corporations were actually people, I'd have called for a mental health check on microsoft a long time ago. Something is not right up in that brain pan and they need some new meds or to break up with that abusive lover or something. Shit ain't right.

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                        #37

                        @sungo @rgegriff Satya came in with new age buzzword bingo, focussed on abstract "engineering excellence" while missing the fundamentals (SDET roles). Weirdly the politics became more entrenched and bitter, people focussed on metrics rather than long term goals and no matter how much puck chasing goes on the SLT still think they are smarter than everyone else

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                        • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                          As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                          Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                          #38

                          @rgegriff there really is no hope. FLOSS enthusiasts have been trying to keep the common user away from Linux by being the most obnoxiously unbearable smart alecks in the computing world, and by breaking fundamental APIs and user-facing interfaces in the most nonsensical ways, and these decades of work are going to fly out of the window because Microsoft can't be arsed to make a simple boring OS anymore. There really is no winning again them.

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                          • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                            As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                            Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                            #39

                            @rgegriff It's bad. From forced AI, total recall (which takes regular screenshots of user history) and black screens of death, Microsoft screwed up this release of Win 11 beyond previous mistakes.

                            They forced everyone onto Win 11 years earlier than their usual product cycle.

                            Demanded TPM and Microsoft accounts at the beginning too.

                            But the worst is knowing that they'll sell your data to the stormtroopers.

                            That's a deal breaker for anyone, even if they're not tech oriented.

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                            • dickon@splodge.fluff.orgD dickon@splodge.fluff.org

                              @rgegriff 'Umm, my computer isn't working too well, and I need something better. What's this Linux thing you keep talking about?'

                              My father, about 20y ago.

                              It's OK. I pointed him at OS X -- he's been happy since...

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                              #40

                              @dickon @rgegriff
                              Is he still happy?
                              I’ve been a macOS user for 35 years and I am definitely no longer happy

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                              • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                #41

                                @rgegriff it's wild talking to windows users who have like 00's Linux problems with WiFi not working after suspend and updates causing bootloops

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                                • oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ieO oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ie

                                  @dickon @rgegriff
                                  Is he still happy?
                                  I’ve been a macOS user for 35 years and I am definitely no longer happy

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                                  #42

                                  @rgegriff @OneInterestingFact Yes, mostly because his needs are Firefox and Thunderbird, and not a lot else. I, too, prefer OS X over Windows, because a browser and terminal are more or less all I want; Apple have that covered tolerably well.

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                                  • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                    As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                    Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                    #43

                                    @rgegriff @Olyindivisible As an Apple user since the Apple IIe & Mac Classic SE, I would love to see if I could run Linux on my old 2012 MacBook Pro. If I could, that would probably convert me. Mac OS pretty much sucks these days. Every update makes things worse.

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                                    • nshrubs@mstdn.socialN nshrubs@mstdn.social

                                      @rgegriff @Olyindivisible As an Apple user since the Apple IIe & Mac Classic SE, I would love to see if I could run Linux on my old 2012 MacBook Pro. If I could, that would probably convert me. Mac OS pretty much sucks these days. Every update makes things worse.

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                                      #44

                                      @Nshrubs @rgegriff @Olyindivisible I was running Linux on my non-retina 2012 MacBook Pro without a hitch. Most of the older (before T1) Intel stuff is probably no problem.

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                                      • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                        As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                        Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                        #45

                                        @rgegriff Half of it is nervousness that #Trump effectively has a kill switch on M$ software, as the EU recently found out, which made me go looking for something European.

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                                        • rgegriff@masto.hackers.townR rgegriff@masto.hackers.town

                                          As a long time Linux user; do you know how bad you have to fuck up your operating system to make people WANT to use Linux?

                                          Regular people in my life keep asking me for advice and... I mean, cool. But, like, what the fuck is Microsoft doing over there?

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                                          #46

                                          @rgegriff How could they have known that using your own hardware to build a little digital model of you in order to control your thoughts and actions was the line?

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