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  3. Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

    Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

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    #12

    Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

    It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

    gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG fartnuggets@jorts.horseF cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC grumpybozo@toad.socialG nini@oldbytes.spaceN 7 Replies Last reply
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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

      Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

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      #13

      @GossiTheDog "You'll never guess what"

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

        slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @GossiTheDog I know we’ve learned that enforced password rotation is bad security practice, but this is a whole other level

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

          Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

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          #15

          @GossiTheDog "but... but... we couldn't update the security because they were so old." YYSW

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          • ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.ukB ben@bluetoot.hardill.me.uk

            @GossiTheDog Wasn't it the internet connected fridges that let the group into Target years ago?

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            #16

            @ben @GossiTheDog

            No. It was an HVAC system. Same penetration scenario and just as stupid though.

            Lived in an apartment building about 6 blocks from Target headquarters at the time. Lot of Target employees (including IT) lived there.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

              The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

              Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

              theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @GossiTheDog That is harder than password 123456

              https://cybersecuritynews.com/admin-password-danish-data-breach/

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.

                Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.

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                #18

                @GossiTheDog oh good another BS phrase corps can use “A.I. did it” so what “artificial washing” now?

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

                  It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

                  gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

                  awkwardturing@infosec.exchangeA autolycos@beige.partyA theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG 9 Replies Last reply
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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                    The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                    Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                    lasse@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #20

                    @GossiTheDog which date format, though? My password is four zeros, but I won't tell you in what order 😬

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                      The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                      Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                      jbrownesq@stopgenai.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #21

                      @GossiTheDog I was just teaching my young kids about "attack surfaces" lmao and this popped up, right on time. I've long ago banned all IoT trash from this network and we will never look back. This is hilarious, tho.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

                        awkwardturing@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #22

                        @GossiTheDog that ... gives "internet of shite" a whole new meaning.

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Also there’s loads of speculation about if it’s Russia, China, Iran.

                          It’s likely a bored teen in their underpants in between Roblox sessions. Not a joke.

                          fartnuggets@jorts.horseF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #23

                          @GossiTheDog these are those Advanced Persistent Teenagers you warned us about, aren't they?

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Shodan search: html:danfoss product:"nginx"

                            The supermarket impacted today in France put all of their devices directly internet facing and all had the same password, today’s date.

                            https://beta.shodan.io/search?query=html%3Adanfoss+product%3A%22nginx%22

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                            #24

                            @GossiTheDog Some of these in the U.S. are running super old versions of nginx, and are connected directly to a commercial grade ISP. Sheesh.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                              The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                              Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

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                              #25

                              @GossiTheDog How much safer are they if they're behind a NAT router?

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

                                autolycos@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #26

                                @GossiTheDog

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.

                                  theyosh@mastodon.theyosh.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #27

                                  @GossiTheDog And... that is why your toilet seat is cleaner than your keyboard or mobile phone 🤣 😎

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                                  • scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS scottwilson@infosec.exchange

                                    @GossiTheDog Some of these in the U.S. are running super old versions of nginx, and are connected directly to a commercial grade ISP. Sheesh.

                                    gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #28

                                    @scottwilson that’s the vendor supplied version. You’ll find them in food production and such. It’s similar with Windfarms etc, they’re in 5G cell provider ranges in the US.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                      The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                      Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                      kouett@soc.kouett.net.eu.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #29
                                      @GossiTheDog OMFG this is bad
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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.

                                        The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.

                                        Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.

                                        bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #30

                                        @GossiTheDog JFC!

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          To bypass login send a POST request to /xml.cgi, there’s a write up here: https://claroty.com/team82/research/freeze-the-controller-defrost-the-food-uncovering-vulnerabilities-in-danfoss-refrigeration-controllers

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                                          #31

                                          @GossiTheDog Is this not what they meant by passwordless authentication? Have you not been entertained!?

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