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  3. Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    Oh and to top things off, they make trivially false claims in their post. Tuwunel and its predecessors do not and have never used Postgres or Redis.

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    #8

    Honestly this is almost insulting to me, as someone who has spent a nontrivial amount of effort developing a Matrix homeserver, with how low effort it is. And what’s the point? Marketing? I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.

    jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ tauon@possum.cityT darkcat09@gts.dc09.xyzD 3 Replies Last reply
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    • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

      @JadedBlueEyes I suppose "never mind auth" is also post-quantum, in a philosophical sort of way

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      #9

      @barometz 😭 Post quantum openness

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      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

        Honestly this is almost insulting to me, as someone who has spent a nontrivial amount of effort developing a Matrix homeserver, with how low effort it is. And what’s the point? Marketing? I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.

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        #10

        The pricing comparisons are stupid, by the way, too - a bunch of us in the matrix chatrooms got out how many HTTP requests per day we were serving and the per-request cost of Workers would be more expensive than dedicated VPSs - not even counting CPU time or storage costs!

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        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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          #11

          @JadedBlueEyes
          Pretty solid business strategy!
          Cloudflare bills rivaling current military budgets cause you got spammed by invalid room events... /s

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          • poitzorg@social.as743.orgP poitzorg@social.as743.org

            @JadedBlueEyes
            Pretty solid business strategy!
            Cloudflare bills rivaling current military budgets cause you got spammed by invalid room events... /s

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            #12

            @poitzorg Even only counting valid events, a normal matrix server is still consistently serving millions of requests a month!

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            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

              @poitzorg Even only counting valid events, a normal matrix server is still consistently serving millions of requests a month!

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              #13

              @poitzorg per-request pricing is just not the right model for that

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              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                #14

                @JadedBlueEyes what a stupid time to be alive.

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                • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                  The pricing comparisons are stupid, by the way, too - a bunch of us in the matrix chatrooms got out how many HTTP requests per day we were serving and the per-request cost of Workers would be more expensive than dedicated VPSs - not even counting CPU time or storage costs!

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                  #15

                  For those of you that don't know, I develop https://continuwuity.org - a Rust based Matrix homeserver that actually works, and that you can run on a Raspberry Pi, rather than someone else's centralized cloud infrastructure

                  jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                    #16

                    @JadedBlueEyes lol. lmao even.

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                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                      For those of you that don't know, I develop https://continuwuity.org - a Rust based Matrix homeserver that actually works, and that you can run on a Raspberry Pi, rather than someone else's centralized cloud infrastructure

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                      #17

                      I'm also giving a talk about some of the actual work that goes into building this software in a few days at FOSDEM, if you want to learn more:

                      https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115956965835059690

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                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                        #18

                        @JadedBlueEyes

                        Lol, just searching for "TODO" in their github repo doesn't disappoint

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                        • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                          @JadedBlueEyes

                          Lol, just searching for "TODO" in their github repo doesn't disappoint

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                          #19

                          @agowa338 They’re trying to clean up their tracks https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                            I'm also giving a talk about some of the actual work that goes into building this software in a few days at FOSDEM, if you want to learn more:

                            https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115956965835059690

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                            #20

                            Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                            https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                            Archive link for posterity:

                            https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                              @agowa338 They’re trying to clean up their tracks https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                              #21

                              @JadedBlueEyes

                              Wonder if that's because of my LinkedIn post from 15 minutes ago where I said that they're wasting everyones times and mentioned Cloudflare...

                              https://www.linkedin.com/posts/klausfrank_ai-share-7421952201788608512-oFiv

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                              • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                                @JadedBlueEyes

                                Wonder if that's because of my LinkedIn post from 15 minutes ago where I said that they're wasting everyones times and mentioned Cloudflare...

                                https://www.linkedin.com/posts/klausfrank_ai-share-7421952201788608512-oFiv

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                                #22

                                @JadedBlueEyes

                                I mean it only got 6 impressions with one of them being by a paying member.

                                But as I basically have no followers there and I mentioned them it's not that unlikely...

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                                • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                  Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                  https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                  #23

                                  @JadedBlueEyes

                                  > You aren't just installing software; you are becoming a system administrator

                                  🤢

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                                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                    #24
                                    @JadedBlueEyes it's wildebeest (cloudflare fedi software that leaked dms to the public) all over again
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                                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                      #25

                                      Maybe Cloudflare should just stick to DDPS protection and CDNs

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                                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                        #26
                                        @JadedBlueEyes eeeew yuck that’s so fucking embarrassing. not like those feds had any reputation to worry about whatsoever, but still
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                                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                          Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                                          https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                                          Archive link for posterity:

                                          https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                                          #27

                                          @JadedBlueEyes that'll fix it!

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