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  3. Kind wild how the whole tech industry is just people who did and didn’t get The Lord of The Rings

Kind wild how the whole tech industry is just people who did and didn’t get The Lord of The Rings

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  • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

    @ireneista @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak and that conservative trope of each age being notably lesser than the one before it, like the only thing more powerful than good or evil is entropy which wait hang on

    But no I am so tired of the Gold / Silver / Bronze / Cardboard Age meta-myth.

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    #53

    @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak right yes! yes, well said

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    • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

      @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak right yes! yes, well said

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      #54

      @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak it's almost like the opposite of that common misinterpretation of the "moral arc [...] bends towards justice" thing that presupposes inevitability and therefore justifies inaction

      or the other side of the same coin, or something

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      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

        @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak it's almost like the opposite of that common misinterpretation of the "moral arc [...] bends towards justice" thing that presupposes inevitability and therefore justifies inaction

        or the other side of the same coin, or something

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        #55

        @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak and on the other hand of course, the "cardboard age" part in particular is repackaged original sin.

        the rhetoric goes that nobody today is powerful, remarkable, etc, they're all shit, unchangeably so, so they must permanently feel inadequate and also their only hope to greatness is through zero-sum thinking

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          @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak and on the other hand of course, the "cardboard age" part in particular is repackaged original sin.

          the rhetoric goes that nobody today is powerful, remarkable, etc, they're all shit, unchangeably so, so they must permanently feel inadequate and also their only hope to greatness is through zero-sum thinking

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          #56

          @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak original sin is one of those things that once we started looking for it in conservative rhetoric, it is fucking everywhere.

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          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online
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            #57

            @danirabbit "the tech itself is neutral" yes in the same way that all tech before it has also been neutral

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            • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

              @danirabbit @jwz starting to suspect that the reason I have had to largely withdraw from it is that I did, I *did* understand the lord of the rings. the books, even, not just the movies!

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              #58

              @glyph @danirabbit @jwz right? Techbros: "Finally we have invented a way to scour Shires, surely we are the good guys"

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online
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                #59

                @danirabbit I suppose it's borderline a dead meme now but:

                I heard his dad was a toolmaker.

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                • crowbriarhexe@tech.lgbtC crowbriarhexe@tech.lgbt

                  @danirabbit "the tech itself is neutral" yes in the same way that all tech before it has also been neutral

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                  #60

                  @crowbriarhexe "the whip is just a tool," sneers the hand gripping it tight.

                  @danirabbit

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                  • cargot_robbie@urbanists.socialC cargot_robbie@urbanists.social

                    @crowbriarhexe "the whip is just a tool," sneers the hand gripping it tight.

                    @danirabbit

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                    #61

                    @cargot_robbie @danirabbit omg yes, exactly this. This is all of current "AI" in a nutshell.

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                    • cargot_robbie@urbanists.socialC cargot_robbie@urbanists.social

                      @crowbriarhexe "the whip is just a tool," sneers the hand gripping it tight.

                      @danirabbit

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                      #62

                      @cargot_robbie ugh, I love you for this, it's *perfect*

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                      • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                        @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak original sin is one of those things that once we started looking for it in conservative rhetoric, it is fucking everywhere.

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                        #63

                        @ireneista @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak of all places, my satori occurred reading the "Fantasy Hero" resource book for Fifth Edition Hero System RPG. There's a section pointing out how conservative the major fantasy tropes are, and basically "play into it, play against it, or play with it, but be informed about the idioms of the form."

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                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online
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                          #64

                          @danirabbit

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                          • crowbriarhexe@tech.lgbtC crowbriarhexe@tech.lgbt

                            @cargot_robbie ugh, I love you for this, it's *perfect*

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                            #65

                            @crowbriarhexe thank you 💖✨

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                            • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

                              @ireneista @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak of all places, my satori occurred reading the "Fantasy Hero" resource book for Fifth Edition Hero System RPG. There's a section pointing out how conservative the major fantasy tropes are, and basically "play into it, play against it, or play with it, but be informed about the idioms of the form."

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                              #66

                              @randomgeek @aud @danirabbit @griotspeak ah! right, makes sense tbh

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                              • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                                @danirabbit

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                                #67

                                @aburka @danirabbit

                                The wizard looks up from his code reviews and smiled grimly.

                                Hey Siri, he said.

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                                • cynthia1960@wandering.shopC cynthia1960@wandering.shop

                                  @glyph @danirabbit @fieldswork they are orcs!

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                                  #68

                                  RE: https://rustedneuron.com/@jackwilliambell/116971063009692182

                                  @cynthia1960 @glyph @danirabbit @fieldswork

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                                  • nekohayo@mastodon.socialN nekohayo@mastodon.social

                                    @alatiera @zbrown @danirabbit My favorite part of the Lord of the Rings, which I am sure you remember as well, was when Ace Ventura defeated Saruman with a tiny blowpipe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieLPn0gdpEU

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                                    #69

                                    @nekohayo @alatiera @danirabbit does he assault any women in suuuuuper hilarious ways thus popularising a series of tropes around a minority that's now actively hunted by several governments?

                                    Jim Carrey is a funny guy and he's amazingly expressive. Ace Ventura should be erased from the timeline.

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                                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                      Kind wild how the whole tech industry is just people who did and didn’t get The Lord of The Rings

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                                      #70

                                      @danirabbit Remember, they’re the same guys who argue we don’t need English/literature/communication classes because STEM subjects are more important.

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                                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                        Kind wild how the whole tech industry is just people who did and didn’t get The Lord of The Rings

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                                        #71

                                        @danirabbit At long last, we have created One Ring to Rule Them All from the classic fantasy novel Don't Create One Ring to Rule Them All

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                                        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                          @danirabbit wait, is there anyone in the tech industry who *did* get The Lord of The Rings?

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                                          #72

                                          @datarama @danirabbit You're in Rivendell, buddy.

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