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  3. "why does the fridge have an internet connection?""So it can download security updates""Why does it need security updates?""To protect against new vulnerabilities""Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that...""Oh"

"why does the fridge have an internet connection?""So it can download security updates""Why does it need security updates?""To protect against new vulnerabilities""Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that...""Oh"

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  • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

    @quixoticgeek

    it really pisses me off that my washing machine has a Wi-Fi signal. WTF. There is no need for that.

    endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #8

    @FranceskaMann @quixoticgeek
    Am I supposed to morse code in my WiFi password on the program button?

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    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

      "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
      "So it can download security updates"
      "Why does it need security updates?"
      "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
      "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
      "Oh"

      dianea@lgbtqia.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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      dianea@lgbtqia.space
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #9

      @quixoticgeek

      Everybody wants a new #Danfoss temperature controller for their home. Be sure to connect WiFi, or else...

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      • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

        @FranceskaMann @quixoticgeek
        Am I supposed to morse code in my WiFi password on the program button?

        franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @EndlessMason @quixoticgeek

        404 media just dropped a story that ice and police can use AI based on a photo from Airbnb appliances to track people. It sounds so bizarre. so yeah, I want my appliances stupid, disconnected and useful. Enough surveillance tech.

        https://www.404media.co/cops-can-creep-on-airbnb/

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        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

          "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
          "So it can download security updates"
          "Why does it need security updates?"
          "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
          "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
          "Oh"

          timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @quixoticgeek I would expect an internet connected fridge to do things like

          * scan the barcode on each product you put into it
          * tell you to throw it away when it's one microsecond past the "use by" date
          * offer to order a replacement for you
          * show you advertisements for other things you might like to buy

          and so on.

          I would expect it to be terribly confused by your putting something into it that didn't have a barcode, y'know, like fresh produce, stuff from your garden, stuff you'd cooked. If there's no barcode how can it sell you anything??

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          • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

            "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
            "So it can download security updates"
            "Why does it need security updates?"
            "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
            "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
            "Oh"

            thomastraynor@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #12

            @quixoticgeek Give me so-called 'dumb' appliances. I don't need to know what it is doing and it is just expensive fluff.

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            • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

              @EndlessMason @quixoticgeek

              404 media just dropped a story that ice and police can use AI based on a photo from Airbnb appliances to track people. It sounds so bizarre. so yeah, I want my appliances stupid, disconnected and useful. Enough surveillance tech.

              https://www.404media.co/cops-can-creep-on-airbnb/

              endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @FranceskaMann @quixoticgeek
              Yeah, more "doing the job" and "being repairable" and less "narcing on me for microwaving a burrito at 0345"

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              • A andydearden@mastodon.green

                @quixoticgeek but possibly so retailers can monitor and verify the temperatures across their coolchain storage, to ensure the food they sell is safe within the printed use by date. Also, perhaps to add one or two days to that shelf life? It's not entirely mad, but it does raise questions of the costs and benefits.

                letsroc@mindly.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #14

                @AndyDearden @quixoticgeek
                But, there is person monitoring and no person notified of the increase - what were they paying for? + their oosses will be covered by insurance but betting it creates shortages & consumers pay

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                • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                  @EndlessMason @quixoticgeek

                  404 media just dropped a story that ice and police can use AI based on a photo from Airbnb appliances to track people. It sounds so bizarre. so yeah, I want my appliances stupid, disconnected and useful. Enough surveillance tech.

                  https://www.404media.co/cops-can-creep-on-airbnb/

                  qwazix@bananachips.clubQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #15

                  @FranceskaMann @EndlessMason @quixoticgeek this sadly does not depend on appliance smartness. It is just matching the appliance in the picture with photos from airbnb dot com

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                  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                    "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                    "So it can download security updates"
                    "Why does it need security updates?"
                    "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                    "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                    "Oh"

                    t_var_s@phpc.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #16

                    @quixoticgeek @KimSJ I imagine it's because the fridge has a camera.

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                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                      "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                      "So it can download security updates"
                      "Why does it need security updates?"
                      "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                      "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                      "Oh"

                      trainguyrom@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #17

                      @quixoticgeek but but but what if I'm at home and need to change the temperature in my fridge? That's a thing that people need to do regularly right? Right?

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                      • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                        @quixoticgeek

                        it really pisses me off that my washing machine has a Wi-Fi signal. WTF. There is no need for that.

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                        #18

                        @FranceskaMann @quixoticgeek It pisses me off that my washing machine not only has wifi but that some of the functions are only accessible via the manufacturer's app, and even then some of the functions of the app are only available if you're using a (recent) phone made by the same company (looking at you Samsung).

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                        • qwazix@bananachips.clubQ qwazix@bananachips.club

                          @FranceskaMann @EndlessMason @quixoticgeek this sadly does not depend on appliance smartness. It is just matching the appliance in the picture with photos from airbnb dot com

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                          #19

                          @qwazix @FranceskaMann @quixoticgeek
                          We have a combi washer/dryer - your move

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                          • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                            "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                            "So it can download security updates"
                            "Why does it need security updates?"
                            "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                            "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                            "Oh"

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                            #20

                            @quixoticgeek Well, I work in a hospital when the fridge has an error it notifies the technical people. These fridges have some kind of network.

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                              #21

                              @Brett @quixoticgeek as an American, our version has a gun by the printer—my elaboration on that is that the gun is of a traditional hammer-fired persuasion, has an explicit safety and whose design has been materially unchanged for decades.

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                              • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                                "So it can download security updates"
                                "Why does it need security updates?"
                                "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                                "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                                "Oh"

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #22

                                @quixoticgeek
                                This is why I do not care that AI causes big big problems and keeps escaping.
                                Let it happen, let people start wondering if they need all this shit.
                                Fridges that tell you it is time to do the groceries ? > use your brain
                                Cars connected with the whole world (including Trump, Putin and Musk)? > we don’t need that
                                Etc etc etc
                                #DisconnectYourLifeFromTheInternet

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                                • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                  "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                                  "So it can download security updates"
                                  "Why does it need security updates?"
                                  "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                                  "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                                  "Oh"

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #23

                                  @quixoticgeek

                                  Well said!

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                                  • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                    "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                                    "So it can download security updates"
                                    "Why does it need security updates?"
                                    "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                                    "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                                    "Oh"

                                    ozone89@techhub.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #24

                                    @quixoticgeek sure said update won't brick half nation's worth of appliance during the manufacturer's nation's main holiday while ß-testing a new fw delivery channel, right?

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                                    • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                      "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                                      "So it can download security updates"
                                      "Why does it need security updates?"
                                      "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                                      "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                                      "Oh"

                                      martyb4@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #25

                                      @quixoticgeek Our smart thermostat can connect to Spotify. So if we look at it one day and say OMG it's hot as hell, immediately the thermostat will start playing AC/DC? No thanks.

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                                      • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                        "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                                        "So it can download security updates"
                                        "Why does it need security updates?"
                                        "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                                        "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                                        "Oh"

                                        pagn@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #26

                                        @quixoticgeek 100% das!

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                                        • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                          "why does the fridge have an internet connection?"
                                          "So it can download security updates"
                                          "Why does it need security updates?"
                                          "To protect against new vulnerabilities"
                                          "Surely if we didn't connect it to the internet, we wouldn't need that..."
                                          "Oh"

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #27

                                          @quixoticgeek I spy a #greed why

                                          LG means life is good, so why worry about your intimate experiences being banked on by your tv, or refrigerator? We all die, so why worry about Planned Obsolescence?

                                          #Capitalism #AbuseOfPower #ExcludedMiddle

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