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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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    #15

    @sarae total agreement.

    maximizing-reach culture is toxic. It's a very good thing to leave behind here in the fediverse.

    Being kind and recognizing each other is good. And it's the kind of lovely action we should be encouraging...

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    • lalah@sakurajima.moeL lalah@sakurajima.moe

      @sarae oh no, not this nonsense again... I remember last time they were saying, "never fav or boost, only leave comments!" as if there aren't enough reply guys already!

      actual discussion is good of course, but commenting for the sake of commenting... why?

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      #16

      @lalah that really confused me as well

      commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

      hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

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      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

        schratze@todon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #17

        @sarae literally who says this

        I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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        • gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG gpjohnston@mastodon.social

          @sarae I’ve not seen the nega-fav posts, what they got against favoriting?

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          #18

          @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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          • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

            @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

            in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

            I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

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            #19

            @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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            • gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG gpjohnston@mastodon.social

              @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

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              #20

              @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this

              "hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                #21

                @sarae@ecoevo.social

                it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

                it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                  @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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                  #22

                  @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                    #23

                    @sarae l have always thought it was like giving a friendly wave to someone on the street to let them know I have seen them even if I am not going to stop to chat right now.

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                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                      #24

                      @sarae

                      I'm a big fan of making my own rules. That's why I graduated childhood.

                      🤡

                      Starring = I like! (1/1 stars!)
                      Boosting = I want everyone to see this.

                      Do what you mean. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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                      • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                        @sarae literally who says this

                        I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                        #25

                        @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                        not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                        but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                          @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                          not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                          but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                          #26

                          @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                          • colo_lee@mstdn.socialC colo_lee@mstdn.social

                            @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                            #27

                            @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                            but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                            that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                            (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                              #28

                              @sarae

                              I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                              You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                              • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                                #29

                                @schratze thank you

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                                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                  @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                                  but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                                  that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                                  (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                                  #30

                                  @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                                  • beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.placeB beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @sarae

                                    I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                                    You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                                    #31

                                    @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                                    it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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                                    • mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM mycrowgirl@flipping.rocks

                                      @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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                                      #32

                                      @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa I use it the same. Sometimes I don't have the spoons to reply to someone having a difficult time. I want them to know they aren't alone.

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                                      • colo_lee@mstdn.socialC colo_lee@mstdn.social

                                        @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                                        #33

                                        @colo_lee @GPJohnston lol I get up every day and try to remind myself about that

                                        and sometimes it really is that way but daaaamn also people are people an upsetting amount of the time 😆

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                                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                          #34

                                          @sarae 👍💯👍

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