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  3. Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

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  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

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    fxiz@mastodon.social
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    #85

    @lisamelton people can be so clueless yet so confident at the same time. Truly amusing.

    'jackhole techbro'? I rather be respectful to the tech people as a community than call them with demeaning names. I mean if things are so bad for me than I sure can go back to my good old letter posting. Has no algorithm, does not come from 'techbro', does not need algorithm, no ai, employees my local postman, etc. And yeah, "making friends".

    Everything is fine till it fits the propoganda, is it?

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    • djsumdog@djsumdog.comD djsumdog@djsumdog.com
      My boss wrote all our stories in Claude. They were (and still are) unreadable. I took over writing all the newer stories. I don't mind using the random code generator for small things, but sweeping architecture agent coding just looks like we're creating a massive pile of technical debt on a new project.

      If whoever wants to write some slop-lm to filter the fedi firehouse, meh .. everyone can do what they want. I'll keep mine chronological. It's more fun that way.
      colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
      colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
      colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #86

      @djsumdog @lisamelton I'm not in a tech field, no coding—we just have researchers writing reports, and some of them were trying to use AI to write . . . and it was soooooo painful. The stuff read like it was written by a forgetful corpse. There was no . . . connection for me. I sniffed it out and asked them to please stop, to write things from scratch on their own.

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      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

        imprinted@mastodon.unoI This user is from outside of this forum
        imprinted@mastodon.unoI This user is from outside of this forum
        imprinted@mastodon.uno
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #87

        @lisamelton
        Well if he's nostalgic of algorithm he can stay on the commercial social networks. There is no need to replicate that shit here.

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        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

          ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
          ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
          ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #88

          RE: https://masto.ai/@GhostOnTheHalfShell/110697014050821679

          @lisamelton

          Later, I learned that Salvador Dali supported, I think Franco. But the quote is classic.

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          • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

            @djsumdog @lisamelton I'm not in a tech field, no coding—we just have researchers writing reports, and some of them were trying to use AI to write . . . and it was soooooo painful. The stuff read like it was written by a forgetful corpse. There was no . . . connection for me. I sniffed it out and asked them to please stop, to write things from scratch on their own.

            djsumdog@djsumdog.comD This user is from outside of this forum
            djsumdog@djsumdog.comD This user is from outside of this forum
            djsumdog@djsumdog.com
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #89

            I had drinks with a old co-worker a few weeks back who was (and still is) a web marketing manager. He told me he writes some reports with the LLM and he’s pretty sure his director asks to summaries all the reports she gets with LLMs…

            I rarely uses the Weighted Random Word generators outside of code and I would NEVER use them to craft a message to someone or a blog post. The thing about writing is that it’s the way we organize thoughts. you are organizing what you want to communicate. The moment you outsource that to matrix/transformer/attention multiplication, you’ve lost the ability to arrange what you’re thinking and putting it into order.

            That’s such a essential part of written language, something that we’ve only had for a few hundred years! Literacy rates were at 2%~5% for much of the ancient world until like … what… 1500? 1600?

            These days I can’t even read generated shit. It might not even be auto-generated. Some people may just write that way now because they use GiPPTY /Claude so much that it’s just how they think now. It drives me bonks.

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            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

              atoro@ruhr.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
              atoro@ruhr.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
              atoro@ruhr.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #90

              @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

              The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

              lisamelton@mastodon.socialL mikebabcock@floss.socialM jenzi@mastodon.socialJ 3 Replies Last reply
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              • atoro@ruhr.socialA atoro@ruhr.social

                @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

                The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

                lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                lisamelton@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #91

                @Atoro Exactly! You are controlling what goes into your timeline. As it should be.

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                • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

                  @lisamelton Techbro can go to the dead bird site.

                  continuity0@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                  continuity0@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                  continuity0@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #92

                  @IveyJanette @lisamelton 'struth

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                  • atoro@ruhr.socialA atoro@ruhr.social

                    @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

                    The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

                    mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mikebabcock@floss.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #93

                    @Atoro @lisamelton @hypebot ... but can it only do this by violating the 'trust' of the users who don't want their posts used for such things?

                    I should be clear that I am /not/ one of those users, but I know they exist.

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                      dusk@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
                      dusk@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
                      dusk@todon.eu
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #94

                      @lisamelton

                      *stands on desk*

                      We ARE the algorithm!

                      https://todon.eu/@dusk/114699673477597973

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                      • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

                        @lisamelton Techbro can go to the dead bird site.

                        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                        lisamelton@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #95

                        @IveyJanette Come to think of it, he might have been coming *from* Shitter. 🤔 Figures.

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                        • atoro@ruhr.socialA atoro@ruhr.social

                          @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

                          The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

                          jenzi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          jenzi@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #96

                          @Atoro @lisamelton @hypebot Someone used to run a bot around here https://kindalame.com/2020/12/04/how-to-toot-trending-topics-with-node-red-and-mastodon-api/

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                          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                            Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                            Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                            Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                            We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                            Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                            afoucart@social.sciences.reA This user is from outside of this forum
                            afoucart@social.sciences.reA This user is from outside of this forum
                            afoucart@social.sciences.re
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #97

                            @lisamelton and a "popular things algorithm" would not solve the actual issue of missing posts from not particularly popular accounts who nonetheless post super interesting stuff, especially if they are not in your timezone.

                            For that, the best solution I found is RSS. If there's someone whose posts I don't want to miss, I just add their RSS feed to my reader, then I'm sure to see them even if I only log in ten hours later and nobody boosts it. Being in control like that is nice.

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                            • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                              @lisamelton They should of course be free to program a server that offers an algorithmic feed if they want to. But keep that shit out of my server, i trust the fully human algorithm more!

                              mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mikebabcock@floss.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #98

                              @gimulnautti @lisamelton I know its swimming upstream around here, but this smacks of privilege.
                              Whether its contacts or tech knowledge, not everyone can find what they want for their feed so easily. *most* of the people I've invited to Mastodon have bounced off because they can't find anyone to follow easily and there's no algorithm to feed them starter accounts.
                              We all need to not harass people for wanting something that makes their lives easier.
                              #socialMedia #recommendations #onboarding

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                              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                merveilleux@mk.absturztau.be
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #99

                                @lisamelton@mastodon.social What about an opt-in algorithmic feed similar to the one on Bluesky?

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                                • merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM merveilleux@mk.absturztau.be

                                  @lisamelton@mastodon.social What about an opt-in algorithmic feed similar to the one on Bluesky?

                                  lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  lisamelton@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #100

                                  @Merveilleux As long as it's not the default and it's on your own server, I think that's fine.

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                                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    lisamelton@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #101

                                    @nosaj You might be surprised but there are an assload of bots on the Fedi that do that already. 🤷‍♀️

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                                    • afoucart@social.sciences.reA afoucart@social.sciences.re

                                      @lisamelton and a "popular things algorithm" would not solve the actual issue of missing posts from not particularly popular accounts who nonetheless post super interesting stuff, especially if they are not in your timezone.

                                      For that, the best solution I found is RSS. If there's someone whose posts I don't want to miss, I just add their RSS feed to my reader, then I'm sure to see them even if I only log in ten hours later and nobody boosts it. Being in control like that is nice.

                                      cavyherd@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      cavyherd@wandering.shop
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                                      #102

                                      @AFoucart @lisamelton

                                      I've used the notification function to some good effect here, but that quickly gets overwhelming.

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                                      • dusk@todon.euD dusk@todon.eu

                                        @lisamelton

                                        *stands on desk*

                                        We ARE the algorithm!

                                        https://todon.eu/@dusk/114699673477597973

                                        continuity0@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        continuity0@mastodon.social
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                                        #103

                                        @dusk @lisamelton *Algorythm

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                                          sea1am@mastodon.social
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                                          #104

                                          @nosaj @lisamelton

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