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  3. Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

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  • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

    @djsumdog @lisamelton I'm not in a tech field, no coding—we just have researchers writing reports, and some of them were trying to use AI to write . . . and it was soooooo painful. The stuff read like it was written by a forgetful corpse. There was no . . . connection for me. I sniffed it out and asked them to please stop, to write things from scratch on their own.

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    #89

    I had drinks with a old co-worker a few weeks back who was (and still is) a web marketing manager. He told me he writes some reports with the LLM and he’s pretty sure his director asks to summaries all the reports she gets with LLMs…

    I rarely uses the Weighted Random Word generators outside of code and I would NEVER use them to craft a message to someone or a blog post. The thing about writing is that it’s the way we organize thoughts. you are organizing what you want to communicate. The moment you outsource that to matrix/transformer/attention multiplication, you’ve lost the ability to arrange what you’re thinking and putting it into order.

    That’s such a essential part of written language, something that we’ve only had for a few hundred years! Literacy rates were at 2%~5% for much of the ancient world until like … what… 1500? 1600?

    These days I can’t even read generated shit. It might not even be auto-generated. Some people may just write that way now because they use GiPPTY /Claude so much that it’s just how they think now. It drives me bonks.

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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

      atoro@ruhr.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #90

      @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

      The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

      lisamelton@mastodon.socialL mikebabcock@floss.socialM jenzi@mastodon.socialJ 3 Replies Last reply
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      • atoro@ruhr.socialA atoro@ruhr.social

        @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

        The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #91

        @Atoro Exactly! You are controlling what goes into your timeline. As it should be.

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        • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

          @lisamelton Techbro can go to the dead bird site.

          continuity0@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #92

          @IveyJanette @lisamelton 'struth

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          • atoro@ruhr.socialA atoro@ruhr.social

            @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

            The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

            mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #93

            @Atoro @lisamelton @hypebot ... but can it only do this by violating the 'trust' of the users who don't want their posts used for such things?

            I should be clear that I am /not/ one of those users, but I know they exist.

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            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

              dusk@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #94

              @lisamelton

              *stands on desk*

              We ARE the algorithm!

              https://todon.eu/@dusk/114699673477597973

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              • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

                @lisamelton Techbro can go to the dead bird site.

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                #95

                @IveyJanette Come to think of it, he might have been coming *from* Shitter. 🤔 Figures.

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                • atoro@ruhr.socialA atoro@ruhr.social

                  @lisamelton I follow @hypebot which boosts me trending toots into my otherwise chronological timeline. That helps me to see stuff outside of my curated bubble.

                  The important part is, that this is MY decision and no one forces anything on me.

                  jenzi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #96

                  @Atoro @lisamelton @hypebot Someone used to run a bot around here https://kindalame.com/2020/12/04/how-to-toot-trending-topics-with-node-red-and-mastodon-api/

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                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                    afoucart@social.sciences.reA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #97

                    @lisamelton and a "popular things algorithm" would not solve the actual issue of missing posts from not particularly popular accounts who nonetheless post super interesting stuff, especially if they are not in your timezone.

                    For that, the best solution I found is RSS. If there's someone whose posts I don't want to miss, I just add their RSS feed to my reader, then I'm sure to see them even if I only log in ten hours later and nobody boosts it. Being in control like that is nice.

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                    • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                      @lisamelton They should of course be free to program a server that offers an algorithmic feed if they want to. But keep that shit out of my server, i trust the fully human algorithm more!

                      mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #98

                      @gimulnautti @lisamelton I know its swimming upstream around here, but this smacks of privilege.
                      Whether its contacts or tech knowledge, not everyone can find what they want for their feed so easily. *most* of the people I've invited to Mastodon have bounced off because they can't find anyone to follow easily and there's no algorithm to feed them starter accounts.
                      We all need to not harass people for wanting something that makes their lives easier.
                      #socialMedia #recommendations #onboarding

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                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                        merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #99

                        @lisamelton@mastodon.social What about an opt-in algorithmic feed similar to the one on Bluesky?

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                        • merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM merveilleux@mk.absturztau.be

                          @lisamelton@mastodon.social What about an opt-in algorithmic feed similar to the one on Bluesky?

                          lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #100

                          @Merveilleux As long as it's not the default and it's on your own server, I think that's fine.

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                          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #101

                            @nosaj You might be surprised but there are an assload of bots on the Fedi that do that already. 🤷‍♀️

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                            • afoucart@social.sciences.reA afoucart@social.sciences.re

                              @lisamelton and a "popular things algorithm" would not solve the actual issue of missing posts from not particularly popular accounts who nonetheless post super interesting stuff, especially if they are not in your timezone.

                              For that, the best solution I found is RSS. If there's someone whose posts I don't want to miss, I just add their RSS feed to my reader, then I'm sure to see them even if I only log in ten hours later and nobody boosts it. Being in control like that is nice.

                              cavyherd@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #102

                              @AFoucart @lisamelton

                              I've used the notification function to some good effect here, but that quickly gets overwhelming.

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                              • dusk@todon.euD dusk@todon.eu

                                @lisamelton

                                *stands on desk*

                                We ARE the algorithm!

                                https://todon.eu/@dusk/114699673477597973

                                continuity0@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #103

                                @dusk @lisamelton *Algorythm

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                                  #104

                                  @nosaj @lisamelton

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                                  • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                    Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                    Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                    Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                    We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                    Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                    bluewave_kiwi@mastodon.nzB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #105

                                    @lisamelton

                                    Yep, they can just make an account called "Jackhole Techbro Default Feed", fill with slop, and people who want to can follow it.

                                    Job done.

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                                    • sollat@masto.aiS sollat@masto.ai

                                      @lisamelton
                                      One of the (many) reasons I left twitter (both times) was because it was becoming harder and harder to set it to a chronological feed. I like my doomscrolling to be IN ORDER.

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                                      #106

                                      @sollat @lisamelton ✋Me too!

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                                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                        N This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        neverhurry@mastodon.sdf.org
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                                        #107

                                        @lisamelton Having no algorithm is the best feature and likely indicates said techbro doesn't like how human's actually interact naturally.

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                                        • mikebabcock@floss.socialM mikebabcock@floss.social

                                          @negative12dollarbill @lisamelton unsolicited advice: have you tried https://phanpy.social/ ? Its a different interface for your mastodon server and it has a very nice alternative feed you might appreciate.
                                          I am not associated, just discovered it myself in the last week. fyi. Ignore if irrelevant 🙂

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                                          #108

                                          @mikebabcock @lisamelton I have tried it actually. There's also an opinionated iOS app, Sora, but as I say, I don't feel the need.

                                          What I would like to fix is the Explore tab

                                          https://apps.apple.com/au/app/sorasns-for-mastodon-bluesky/id6754866904

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