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  • redshiftdrift@universeodon.comR redshiftdrift@universeodon.com

    @Natasha_Jay Wonderful!!

    French is my mother tongue, and I learned a bit of German as a third language. That's helping me until:
    <<Ic seide hire, “Ic þanke þe, leoue uuif, for þu hauest me ineredd from dæðe!”>>

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    #46

    @redshiftdrift @Natasha_Jay

    I made it till 1200, I think German being my first language helped me in the end.

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      How far back in time can you understand English?

      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

      #english #language

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      #47

      @Natasha_Jay

      I am German, English is my third foreign language (after Latin).

      In the 1800s, I had two words that seemed unusual to me or that I had to deduce from the context. In the 1600s, there were three. From 1500 onwards, it became a little more difficult, with one word unusual and three unknown: ‘prees’, 'avys' and ‘thyder’.
      I had real difficulties with the 1400s.

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      • moranaga@literatur.socialM moranaga@literatur.social

        @Natasha_Jay

        I am German, English is my third foreign language (after Latin).

        In the 1800s, I had two words that seemed unusual to me or that I had to deduce from the context. In the 1600s, there were three. From 1500 onwards, it became a little more difficult, with one word unusual and three unknown: ‘prees’, 'avys' and ‘thyder’.
        I had real difficulties with the 1400s.

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        #48

        @Natasha_Jay

        Interestingly, the 1300s were easier to understand again, with the meaning becoming clear after reading the text a second time. From 1200 onwards, however, I was lost.

        Thank you so much for this entertaining post!

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          How far back in time can you understand English?

          It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

          "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

          https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

          #english #language

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          #49

          @Natasha_Jay @TCMuffin I made it all the way back to 1000 but then I’m interested in our lost letters like æ and þ (I have the icelandic keyboard set up so I can type the letters they still use) and I have some German.

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          • thumper1964@mindly.socialT thumper1964@mindly.social

            @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter This I’ve got to read, but it needs to be done on the Braille display. I’m currently working my way through the daily diary of a Brit named Samuel Pepys from the year 1666. As far as I know it’s presented just as he wrote it, and it’s fascinating to see how certain words have evolved from then to now. Also grammatical changes. If I tried to read it in audio it would be a slog.

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            #50

            @Thumper1964 @Natasha_Jay @WeirdWriter

            For those interested, Samuel Pepys is also in the Fediverse: @samuelpepys

            He's a 17th century guy so he can really be a sexist asshole. He's an interesting person to follow, not many people from the 17th century around here 😉

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            • chiraag@mastodon.onlineC chiraag@mastodon.online

              @rozeboosje @Natasha_Jay Wow, that's impressive! What is/are your native language(s)?

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              #51

              @chiraag @Natasha_Jay Dutch... I can understand German, too, but I'm not very confident speaking it and even less writing it.

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              • cyberspice@oldbytes.spaceC cyberspice@oldbytes.space

                @Natasha_Jay @TCMuffin I made it all the way back to 1000 but then I’m interested in our lost letters like æ and þ (I have the icelandic keyboard set up so I can type the letters they still use) and I have some German.

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                #52

                @cyberspice @Natasha_Jay

                That's so very impressive 👏👏👏

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                  It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                  "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                  #english #language

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                  #53

                  @Natasha_Jay
                  1200 was pretty much a brick wall for me

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    How far back in time can you understand English?

                    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                    "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                    #english #language

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                    #54

                    @Natasha_Jay if it starts with lingo that teens and twenty somethings use now, I won’t make it very far.

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                    • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                      @Natasha_Jay I've read Chaucer, lets give it a bash.

                      EDIT: Made it to 1000 CE 😬

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                      #55

                      @thejessiekirk @Natasha_Jay Same with Chaucer but it's been a looong while. Made it to around 1200 without a problem, I could decifer to around 1000 but then I stood no chance. But I'm native German, I'd say that did actually help me in some cases.

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                      • murks@social.tchncs.deM murks@social.tchncs.de

                        @Natasha_Jay Neat! Until 1500 it was alright, but no idea what to make of the weirder letters earlier on.

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                        #56

                        @murks @Natasha_Jay Basically they are th and gh as well as the long-s, if you also replace some cases of v<->u and y<->g you should be able to decifer back to 1200 roughly

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          How far back in time can you understand English?

                          It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                          "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                          https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                          #english #language

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                          #57

                          @Natasha_Jay Impressed by the many people who made it to 1200 and back. I was fine right up to 1300 and then so many words I couldn’t get it lost all meaning. Really interesting illustration though.

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                          • beatricejess@masto.bikeB beatricejess@masto.bike

                            @Natasha_Jay but much more easier written than spoken !

                            Here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=842OX2_vCic

                            Well I 'm lost until modern English

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                            #58

                            @beatricejess @Natasha_Jay I have to use yt-dlp to have a listen because YouTube in its greatness decided to automatically synchronize it so the narration is in German, for me. 🤨

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              How far back in time can you understand English?

                              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                              "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                              https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                              #english #language

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                              #59

                              @Natasha_Jay I got to the 11th century. Could not read the tenth.

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                How far back in time can you understand English?

                                It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                                https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                                #english #language

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                                #60

                                @Natasha_Jay that was fun!

                                I understood what was going on as far as 1300, got most of 1200, got the gist of 1100 but definitely missed some of it, and was fully guessing at what was going on in 1000 (it turned out i guessed at least a bit of it right so there was a shadow of comprehension).

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  How far back in time can you understand English?

                                  It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                  "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                                  #english #language

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                                  #61

                                  @Natasha_Jay

                                  We read Chaucer at school, ie 14C.
                                  I struggled with Beowulf but broadly understood it.

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                                  • stevenray@sfba.socialS stevenray@sfba.social

                                    @Natasha_Jay if it starts with lingo that teens and twenty somethings use now, I won’t make it very far.

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                                    #62

                                    @stevenray @Natasha_Jay

                                    Yeah no, 6 7, that slaps are apparently already becoming outdated. That's less than a decade.

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      How far back in time can you understand English?

                                      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                      "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                                      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                                      #english #language

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                                      #63

                                      @Natasha_Jay

                                      Lost me at 1600 "thouing". First word I had to understand from the context.

                                      1200 still understood half.

                                      Thought I lost meaning completely at 1100 until I imagined it was a play being performed, then got an eighth of it.

                                      1000 could only glean some meaning from the spacing of the words, might as well be a completely different language to me.

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                                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                        How far back in time can you understand English?

                                        It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post.

                                        "... as his post goes on, his language gets older. A hundred years older with each jump. The spelling changes. The grammar changes. Words you know are replaced by unfamiliar words, and his attitude gets older too, as the blogger’s voice is replaced by that of a Georgian diarist, an Elizabethan pamphleteer, a medieval chronicler."

                                        https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                                        #english #language

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                                        #64

                                        @Natasha_Jay @hedders 1200 defeats me, even with a solid knowledge of Scandinavian languages other than my native Danish, reasonable command of modern English, a fair bit of German, and a smidge of Dutch. It was going so well up to that point too.

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                                        • pomegranate_stew@kind.socialP pomegranate_stew@kind.social

                                          @commonst @Natasha_Jay
                                          Same, though I found it easier as it went back past 1600 to read it aloud rather than in my head. Hearing it somehow made it easier for me up until 1200, at which point I didn’t know/remember enough of the words and pronunciation to even make that help.

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                                          #65

                                          @pomegranate_stew @commonst @Natasha_Jay Same here. I made it all the way, thanks to Malory and Ælfric in school, but I had to start reading aloud in 1300.

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