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Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    @pizaaman Are we playing Questions?

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    @evan @pizaaman Just say why. I know they banned slop.

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    • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

      @evan @pizaaman Just say why. I know they banned slop.

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      #10

      @rhelune @evan @pizaaman here is one: CIA.

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      • indyradio@kafeneio.socialI indyradio@kafeneio.social

        @rhelune @evan @pizaaman here is one: CIA.

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        #11

        @indyradio @evan @pizaaman News search about wikipedia and CIA resulted in nothing. You could have written more or added a link.

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        • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

          @indyradio @evan @pizaaman News search about wikipedia and CIA resulted in nothing. You could have written more or added a link.

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          #12

          @rhelune @evan @pizaaman goodbye, nitwit.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

            #EvanPoll #poll #wikipedia #mozilla

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            #13

            @evan Wikipedia is self-correcting imo

            Mozilla can't stop LARPing as big tech

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            • rhelune@todon.euR rhelune@todon.eu

              @evan @pizaaman Just say why. I know they banned slop.

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              @rhelune @pizaaman I don't give my answer to polls until the end of the poll. I don't like colouring people's responses.

              If you don't think it's in decline, answer that. If you think it's in decline but that decline is not inevitable -- it could still recover -- answer that.

              I just did a quick Google search for "Wikipedia decline" and there were a lot of hits, so I think this topic is relatively easy to research yourself. And if you don't want to do that, skip the poll.

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                @rhelune @pizaaman I don't give my answer to polls until the end of the poll. I don't like colouring people's responses.

                If you don't think it's in decline, answer that. If you think it's in decline but that decline is not inevitable -- it could still recover -- answer that.

                I just did a quick Google search for "Wikipedia decline" and there were a lot of hits, so I think this topic is relatively easy to research yourself. And if you don't want to do that, skip the poll.

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                @rhelune The question that @pizaaman asked is very close to the question in the poll. I guess the difference is that they asked what other people think about Wikipedia.

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                • evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  @philip I don't think it's a good idea for me to convince you either way. Use a search engine if you're curious. If you find evidence that makes you think one way or another, use that to inform your answer. If that's more work than you think a poll is worth, feel free to skip the question.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

                    #EvanPoll #poll #wikipedia #mozilla

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                    #17

                    @evan mozilla absolutely, but I can't figure out why wikipedia would be on this poll

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      @rhelune @pizaaman I don't give my answer to polls until the end of the poll. I don't like colouring people's responses.

                      If you don't think it's in decline, answer that. If you think it's in decline but that decline is not inevitable -- it could still recover -- answer that.

                      I just did a quick Google search for "Wikipedia decline" and there were a lot of hits, so I think this topic is relatively easy to research yourself. And if you don't want to do that, skip the poll.

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                      #18

                      @evan @pizaaman All right, making my uninformed decision.

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                      • anime_reference@wetdry.worldA anime_reference@wetdry.world

                        @evan mozilla absolutely, but I can't figure out why wikipedia would be on this poll

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                        #19

                        @anime_reference ok, so, how did you answer?

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          @anime_reference ok, so, how did you answer?

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                          @anime_reference also did you try searching for "Wikipedia decline" or doing other research?

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                          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                            @anime_reference also did you try searching for "Wikipedia decline" or doing other research?

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                            #21

                            @evan I voted "mozilla only", as their market share is long gone and they've recently torched all the goodwill they had left

                            I just now searched for 'wikipedia decline' and pretty much every result was a headline about AI search summaries. which isn't a real problem

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                            • anime_reference@wetdry.worldA anime_reference@wetdry.world

                              @evan I voted "mozilla only", as their market share is long gone and they've recently torched all the goodwill they had left

                              I just now searched for 'wikipedia decline' and pretty much every result was a headline about AI search summaries. which isn't a real problem

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                              @evan well, you deleted your post, but what I can say after reading some amount of all that is:
                              if the wikipedia team honestly thinks pageviews is a reliable metric for anything I'm slightly more worried than before

                              but I still think the site's in good shape, especially after the recent decision to reject AI contributions

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                              • anime_reference@wetdry.worldA anime_reference@wetdry.world

                                @evan well, you deleted your post, but what I can say after reading some amount of all that is:
                                if the wikipedia team honestly thinks pageviews is a reliable metric for anything I'm slightly more worried than before

                                but I still think the site's in good shape, especially after the recent decision to reject AI contributions

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                                @anime_reference I'll add them back when the poll is over! I broke my own rules about polls, so I deleted them.

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll #wikipedia #mozilla

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                                  #24

                                  @evan I don't like to think anything's inevitable. I've been disillusioned with both for different reasons, but a turnaround is always possible. Still use Wikipedia heavily and Firefox as my primary browser.

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                                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                    Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

                                    #EvanPoll #poll #wikipedia #mozilla

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                                    #25

                                    @evan Mozilla yes, Wikipedia no. Wikipedia is a lot more than user traffic. When someone wants to actually check the sources of AI they have to go to the source.

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                                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                      Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

                                      #EvanPoll #poll #wikipedia #mozilla

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                                      #26

                                      @evan I went with both.

                                      I think they're both in decline currently, and perhaps this state was inevitable. However I do think it would be possible for both of them to reinvent themselves into something that works in the current era.

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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        Have Wikipedia and Mozilla passed a point of inevitable decline?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll #wikipedia #mozilla

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                                        #27

                                        @evan

                                        I'm a long-time Wikipedian, Firefox and Thunderbird user. I voted for Mozilla only, but hope I'm wrong on that.

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                                        • nickapos@mastodon.oncrete.ukN nickapos@mastodon.oncrete.uk

                                          @evan Mozilla yes, Wikipedia no. Wikipedia is a lot more than user traffic. When someone wants to actually check the sources of AI they have to go to the source.

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                                          #28

                                          @nickapos @evan

                                          Agreed on the importance of Wikipedia, but it's important to recognize that the encyclopedia itself is meant to be a tertiary source. To really check the sources, you need to go to the citations on the Wikipedia pages.

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