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  • jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ jdp23@neuromatch.social

    TBS is accessible to everybody! Just go to https://tweaking.thebad.space/ and search the domain. I'm not saying you should necessarily recommend that though ... Ro's FSEP proposal included UI support for get info from TBS or similar services when evaluating a follow request, a great idea I had never seen before but alas wound up not moving forward after the firestorm. Without that it's a more of a hassle. It's worth it for me but I'm not sure others would see it that way.

    "But, it still recommends following without looking."

    I don't think so?

    Well your post at the top of the thread still says "If you see an account that looks interesting, follow it!"

    And the longer post still says "If you want to stop someone’s account looking blank, give it a follow. There is no harm in following people" before telling people how they can check.

    "Don't want to edit lots as each edit spams every booster's notifications."

    Yeah, I can relate. Notifications on edit are a good thing but also notifications on edit can be very annoying.

    @FediTips @homegrown

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    #9

    @jdp23

    The "no harm" was about people worrying that following an account would affect an algorithm, that's what it leads into in the next part of the sentence. I was responding to people who thought that following an account would trigger some kind of hidden algo that adjusted their entire feed. (People are so used to this happening on Instagram etc.)

    I've removed the "no harm" bit so that this is clearer.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @jdp23

      "Connections between servers are not necessarily a good thing."

      I'm trying to encourage people to build connections between smaller servers instead of everyone going to mastodon.social.

      A really important part of this is people on smaller servers building connections between each other through follows.

      Most people are unware of how powerful their follows are. I'm trying to get across to them that a follow doesn't just connect you but all the people on your server too.

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      #10

      Agreed on encouraging people to build connections between smaller servers, and that people are unaware of how powerful their follows are. So, useful to help people understnad the impact of connections!

      But that power is a two-edged sword, so I think think connections between servers aren't inherently a good thing.

      @FediTips

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        @jdp23

        The "no harm" was about people worrying that following an account would affect an algorithm, that's what it leads into in the next part of the sentence. I was responding to people who thought that following an account would trigger some kind of hidden algo that adjusted their entire feed. (People are so used to this happening on Instagram etc.)

        I've removed the "no harm" bit so that this is clearer.

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        #11

        @FediTips thanks!

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        • jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ jdp23@neuromatch.social

          Agreed on encouraging people to build connections between smaller servers, and that people are unaware of how powerful their follows are. So, useful to help people understnad the impact of connections!

          But that power is a two-edged sword, so I think think connections between servers aren't inherently a good thing.

          @FediTips

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          #12

          @jdp23

          Oh yeah, sorry, I see what you mean now. I didn't mean to imply that every connection was good.

          Some accounts and servers should not be connected to.

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          • jdp23@neuromatch.socialJ jdp23@neuromatch.social

            @FediTips thanks!

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            #13

            @jdp23

            Thanks for flagging it! I hadn't considered that possible interpretation of the phrase.

            EDIT: I've added a sentence to the end of that section saying people may want to check what an account looks like before following, and it leads into the next part which tells them how.

            EDIT 2: I'll also try to phrase this topic better in future posts. Sorry for the mess.

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              If you see an account that looks interesting, follow it!

              Don't worry if it seems inactive or blank, it probably just looks that way because you're the first person to follow it from your server. (More info about why this happens and how to see the actual complete version of a "blank" profile at https://fedi.tips/why-does-someones-account-page-look-completely-blank-is-it-really-blank)

              Once you follow an account, its posts will start showing up on your server too. Following accounts is a key part of building connections between servers.

              #FediTips

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              #14

              @FediTips huh, I've been ignoring followers who have no posts. I didn't realize that they might appear to have no posts because no one from my server has followed them yet. Is it server :: user or server :: server? IOW, if any user on my server follows any user on their server, will the posts of any users on their server be apparent to me on my server?

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              • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

                @FediTips huh, I've been ignoring followers who have no posts. I didn't realize that they might appear to have no posts because no one from my server has followed them yet. Is it server :: user or server :: server? IOW, if any user on my server follows any user on their server, will the posts of any users on their server be apparent to me on my server?

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                #15

                @morgan

                If at least one person on your server is following that account, then its posts will show up for everyone on your server.

                If no one on your server is following that account, then it may appear blank.

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  @morgan

                  If at least one person on your server is following that account, then its posts will show up for everyone on your server.

                  If no one on your server is following that account, then it may appear blank.

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                  #16

                  @FediTips got it, so it's server :: user. Thank you. I'll try following back some of these no-post accounts.

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                  • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

                    @FediTips got it, so it's server :: user. Thank you. I'll try following back some of these no-post accounts.

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                    #17

                    @morgan

                    You can check what they really look like by clicking ... on their profiles and then "view original page" or "view in browser" or similar phrases depending on your app.

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                    • morgan@sfba.socialM morgan@sfba.social

                      @FediTips huh, I've been ignoring followers who have no posts. I didn't realize that they might appear to have no posts because no one from my server has followed them yet. Is it server :: user or server :: server? IOW, if any user on my server follows any user on their server, will the posts of any users on their server be apparent to me on my server?

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                      #18

                      @morgan @FediTips

                      it's a UX bug

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                      • rzeta0@todon.euR rzeta0@todon.eu

                        @morgan @FediTips

                        it's a UX bug

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                        #19

                        @rzeta0 @morgan

                        I think it was a decision not to overwhelm smaller servers by fetching every post for every discovered profile.

                        Mastodon can backfill profile posts, it already does so with pinned posts for every discovered profile, but these are more limited as only five posts can be pinned at a time.

                        Having said that, it looks like they've found a way to implement this for general posts in one of the current pull requests: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/34597

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          If you see an account that looks interesting, follow it!

                          Don't worry if it seems inactive or blank, it probably just looks that way because you're the first person to follow it from your server. (More info about why this happens and how to see the actual complete version of a "blank" profile at https://fedi.tips/why-does-someones-account-page-look-completely-blank-is-it-really-blank)

                          Once you follow an account, its posts will start showing up on your server too. Following accounts is a key part of building connections between servers.

                          #FediTips

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                          #20

                          @FediTips
                          Why do I get an 403 this action is not allowed for some servers if I want to follow someone?

                          Is this a result of some block from my instance or the other one? Checked it on multiple accounts on a specific instanz.

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                          • xanatos@mastodon.gamedev.placeX xanatos@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @FediTips
                            Why do I get an 403 this action is not allowed for some servers if I want to follow someone?

                            Is this a result of some block from my instance or the other one? Checked it on multiple accounts on a specific instanz.

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                            #21

                            @Xanatos

                            Are you able to see the profile you want to follow within your own server, or are you trying to follow by browsing the other server's website?

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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              @Xanatos

                              Are you able to see the profile you want to follow within your own server, or are you trying to follow by browsing the other server's website?

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                              #22

                              @FediTips I just found the error and it was totally my fault.

                              For some reason I blocked the whole domain. Maybe I horrible misclicked in the past or did not pay attention. After unblocking the domain I could follow the account as it should be.

                              Still thank you for taking you time to help me out.

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                              • xanatos@mastodon.gamedev.placeX xanatos@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @FediTips I just found the error and it was totally my fault.

                                For some reason I blocked the whole domain. Maybe I horrible misclicked in the past or did not pay attention. After unblocking the domain I could follow the account as it should be.

                                Still thank you for taking you time to help me out.

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                                #23

                                @Xanatos

                                Brilliant to hear it's working now! And thanks for taking time to explain what happened, it is really useful to hear this as it helps when other people have similar problems. It means I know what to suggest they try first if they ask for help 🙂

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