Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming.

I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming.

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
94 Indlæg 78 Posters 651 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

    @marco @kamstrup Keystrokes are expensive.

    bzdev@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
    bzdev@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
    bzdev@fosstodon.org
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #80

    @woe2you @marco @kamstrup Keystrokes were a bit expensive when Unix was created. Those teletypes tended to use a lot of paper (thermal paper, which came in long roles). And they were slow (I've used them).

    Warning - the video shows these things, but there is a lot of typical you-tube babbling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeL3mbq1mEg

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • kamstrup@fosstodon.orgK kamstrup@fosstodon.org

      I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string

      resuna@ohai.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      resuna@ohai.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      resuna@ohai.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #81

      @kamstrup

      DD because it's a funny reference to OS/360

      AWK because the author initials

      Excel because it's a excellent Visicalc

      Edge because browsers are edgy

      Safari because the internet is a jungle

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

        @jay @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup The best `man` pages are written to be so opaque that the only people who can understand the `man` page are people who don't need the `man` page because they know it all already.

        Or possibly because they wrote the `man` page themselves.

        jay@blan.ccJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jay@blan.ccJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jay@blan.cc
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #82

        @angusm @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup There used to be a time when the gold standard for a man page was "You should be able to reverse engineer the program from this manpage". I recently tried to work out how to configure Thermald. Those days are long long gone.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • kamstrup@fosstodon.orgK kamstrup@fosstodon.org

          I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string

          chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          chrisp@cyberplace.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #83

          @kamstrup You have to grepulate it within the string.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

            @kamstrup or fsck when you need to fsck

            chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            chrisp@cyberplace.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #84

            @renardboy @kamstrup fsck arnd && fnd out

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • stiiin@infosec.spaceS stiiin@infosec.space

              @dsw @kamstrup Even if this equivalent of locker room humour were funny, half of those commands aren't even in POSIX.

              chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
              chrisp@cyberplace.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #85

              @stiiin @dsw @kamstrup POSIX compliant humour only, please, everyone.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • kamstrup@fosstodon.orgK kamstrup@fosstodon.org

                I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string

                chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                chrisp@cyberplace.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #86

                @kamstrup bash - for how you treat your keyboard.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • kamstrup@fosstodon.orgK kamstrup@fosstodon.org

                  I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string

                  lightfighter@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lightfighter@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lightfighter@infosec.exchange
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #87

                  @kamstrup Find has always frustrated me. I've found, locate(mlocate), to work much better for me.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                    @kamstrup
                    Yep! You can't grep dead trees.

                    bricker@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                    bricker@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                    bricker@fosstodon.org
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #88

                    @brouhaha @kamstrup
                    I grep OCR'd dead tree media frequently

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • lallemandfabrice@mastodon.mim-libre.frL lallemandfabrice@mastodon.mim-libre.fr

                      @kamstrup and for non-English speakers ? 😩

                      rnd@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rnd@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
                      rnd@toot.cat
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #89

                      @lallemandfabrice @kamstrup "grep" is not a word in english, it's actually an abbreviation of "g/re/p", a command in ed that (g)lobally looks for a (r)egular (e)xpression and (p)rints matching strings

                      but a lot of IT people actually use "grep" as a verb meaning "look through a file for mentions of a specific piece of text", like i might say "let me grep for this function", as in "let me look where this function's name is mentioned in the source code"

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • happyborg@fosstodon.orgH happyborg@fosstodon.org

                        @kamstrup dd for delete data

                        Maybe it was to encourage us to RTFM?

                        hundertzwoelf@sueden.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                        hundertzwoelf@sueden.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                        hundertzwoelf@sueden.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #90

                        @happyborg @kamstrup I know it as disk destroyer!

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • oggie@woof.groupO oggie@woof.group

                          @kamstrup
                          And 'ed' if you want to end up hurling your computer out a window!

                          crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          crazyeddie@mastodon.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #91

                          @Oggie @kamstrup If you manage to get that done with ed, I'm way impressed.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • edavies@functional.cafeE edavies@functional.cafe

                            @dsw Except it's “umount” because the mental energy required to remember to leave out the “n” is less than the physical energy required to press just press the damn key, especially on an ASR33. /s

                            (Actually, last time I made a comment about this I was told that the reason was that very very early Unixes limited command lengths to 6 characters. There are two interpretations of the word “backward” in the phrase “backward compatibility”.)

                            @kamstrup

                            dsw@mastodontech.deD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dsw@mastodontech.deD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dsw@mastodontech.de
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #92

                            @edavies @kamstrup this is indeed correct and would not work without a corresponding alias.

                            As far I can see, there are several rumors for the missing n, like the one you mentioned. However, I did not find any evidence for the correct story behind.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              @angusm @jay @annehargreaves @kamstrup I used to write (and maintain) man pages for a living. What does that make *me*?

                              annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                              annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
                              annehargreaves@ioc.exchange
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #93

                              @cstross @angusm @jay @kamstrup a meganerd?

                              cstross@wandering.shopC 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA annehargreaves@ioc.exchange

                                @cstross @angusm @jay @kamstrup a meganerd?

                                cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
                                cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
                                cstross@wandering.shop
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #94

                                @annehargreaves @angusm @jay @kamstrup How very dare you! Writing man pages used to be a well-paid career!

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • bogwitch@social.data.coopB bogwitch@social.data.coop shared this topic
                                Svar
                                • Svar som emne
                                Login for at svare
                                • Ældste til nyeste
                                • Nyeste til ældste
                                • Most Votes


                                • Log ind

                                • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                • Login or register to search.
                                Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                • First post
                                  Last post
                                0
                                • Hjem
                                • Seneste
                                • Etiketter
                                • Populære
                                • Verden
                                • Bruger
                                • Grupper