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  3. Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.

Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

    geepawhill@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @mcc I feel like we have two choices, and they both really suck.

    mattmerk@mastodon.socialM tillbtc@mastodon.socialT 2 Replies Last reply
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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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      #5

      @mcc I'm thinking about the plausibility of using an alt OS. I'm (?falsely) reassured that my phone is 8 years old and probably won't be able to handle that level of surveillance but I also just don't know

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

        kkarhan@c.imK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @mcc what's missing is a #Google-free #Android-Fork beyond a mere #ROM.

        - #LineageOS is close but not quite and #GrapheneOS are too busy appeasing #Cyberfascists with *"#DeviceAttestation"* aka. #Malware features…

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        • geepawhill@mastodon.socialG geepawhill@mastodon.social

          @mcc I feel like we have two choices, and they both really suck.

          mattmerk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @GeePawHill It's like a U.S. presidential election that way. @mcc

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          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

            Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

            One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

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            #8

            @mcc In a recent update. Samsung is increasing their a.i stuff in Android. This with the Google a.i stuff is making Android unusable. I am forced to use Android for various reasons, also because there is no competition on the market.

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            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

              Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

              cr1901@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @mcc 32-bit CPUs and up were a mistake.

              At least you can't run this AI bullshit on a 286. Your 286 wont spy on you.

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

                julie@merida.hairJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @mcc@mastodon.social Oh, neat. I can't wait for my student to come home from school and tell me about all the cool stuff AI on their school-issued laptop can do.

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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                  One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

                  dreamos82@mastodon.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @mcc every new news about android, make me think preordering the new jolla phone with sailfish os my best choice of 2026 🙂

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                  • cr1901@mastodon.socialC cr1901@mastodon.social

                    @mcc 32-bit CPUs and up were a mistake.

                    At least you can't run this AI bullshit on a 286. Your 286 wont spy on you.

                    madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @cr1901 @mcc

                    Sounds like it's time to dig out the old Amstrad CPC 6128 from the attic.CP/M for the win! 😎

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                      One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

                      walrus@toot.walesW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @mcc

                      Oh, well. My Chromebook is knackered anyway. Guess I'll replace it with a 4K laptop running Linux.

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                      • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

                        @mcc what's missing is a #Google-free #Android-Fork beyond a mere #ROM.

                        - #LineageOS is close but not quite and #GrapheneOS are too busy appeasing #Cyberfascists with *"#DeviceAttestation"* aka. #Malware features…

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                        #14

                        @kkarhan @mcc I'm using a Fairphone 4 running e/OS/ which appears to be utterly Gargoyle-free unless I install the wrong apps from "All lounge".

                        It was more hard work to set up than a typical big name Android phone, but most things are covered, although I haven't found a decent NFC payment app yet--Curve has currently had 6,746 attempts blocked by e/OS/, which regards them as attempted data leaks.

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          Looks like Chromebook is being replaced with something called "Googlebook" and it is full-scale Microsoft-style Surveillance PC. Apparently anytime you "wiggle your cursor" anything that is underneath the cursor gets fed into Google's surveillance AI https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/meet-googlebook/

                          One of these things that makes me consider detecting the platform from my webserver and blocking it entirely because the probability of whatever I wrote becoming an LLM input is too high

                          macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @mcc I can see schools upgrading to these without so much as a second thought about surveillance or primacy of the students.

                          As for alternatives to Android? Some have mentioned installing GrapheneOS on an older model Android, some have suggested Linux, Kali or Tails specifically. Others have suggested a more old school dumb flip phone.

                          The more advanced the world has gotten, the crucial it is to keep old school or alt means of communication alive.

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                          • kkarhan@c.imK kkarhan@c.im

                            @mcc what's missing is a #Google-free #Android-Fork beyond a mere #ROM.

                            - #LineageOS is close but not quite and #GrapheneOS are too busy appeasing #Cyberfascists with *"#DeviceAttestation"* aka. #Malware features…

                            jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @kkarhan @mcc

                            What's wrong with GrapheneOS now?

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                            • dreamos82@mastodon.worldD dreamos82@mastodon.world

                              @mcc every new news about android, make me think preordering the new jolla phone with sailfish os my best choice of 2026 🙂

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                              #17

                              @dreamos82 @mcc Jolla Phones were sold out, sadly...

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

                                anniethebruce@transfem.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @mcc@mastodon.social Google seems hell bent on destroying everything that people switched to them for.

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                                • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                  @kkarhan @mcc

                                  What's wrong with GrapheneOS now?

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                                  #19

                                  @jrdepriest @mcc the whole "Device Attestation" shite and them choosing to go with Motorola, which are so #AntiRepairDesign that they argue with @EUCommission about the #EU-wide #SupportDuration…

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                                  • rupertreynolds@hachyderm.ioR rupertreynolds@hachyderm.io

                                    @kkarhan @mcc I'm using a Fairphone 4 running e/OS/ which appears to be utterly Gargoyle-free unless I install the wrong apps from "All lounge".

                                    It was more hard work to set up than a typical big name Android phone, but most things are covered, although I haven't found a decent NFC payment app yet--Curve has currently had 6,746 attempts blocked by e/OS/, which regards them as attempted data leaks.

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                                    #20

                                    @RupertReynolds @mcc that's due to the bullshit #App developers due under the false pretense of "#PCIDSS compliance"…

                                    - Personally, I'd use #Monerujo (and thus #Monero) for cashless payments…

                                    http://monerujo.app

                                    But that shit is so good, it's being criminalized!

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                                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                      Since the Google announcement wording also poses this as not just the future of Chromebook but the future of Android, this raises serious questions, for me, about how much longer using Android will continue to be an option. Google's been escalating removal of Gemini opt-outs and Android is almost the only one of their products I haven't yet dropped as a result. (This is, of course, happening at the same time governments worldwide are making citizenship contingent on owning an Android or iPhone.)

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                                      #21

                                      @mcc I wish there was a third phone.

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                                        #22

                                        @otte_homan @mcc the state is fundamentally part of the problem.

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                                        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                          @mcc I wish there was a third phone.

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                                          #23

                                          @xgranade @mcc I am unironically considering getting the Barbie phone (US version). It’s apparently a pretty good device for a feature phone. Plus…pink!

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