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"One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

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  • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

    "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

    It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

    It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

    What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

    The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

    There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

    It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

    https://marginalia-search.com/

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    joetinymind@mastodon.social
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    #79

    @eliasulrich Ran my own Marginalia-style search once — the honest truth is it's not a Google alternative, it's a bookmark. Good for the 40 pages you love, useless for anything new. What I actually missed wasn't another engine, it was the discoverability Marginalia gives a page that would otherwise be unread by anyone. That's the real ask: make small sites findable, don't try to beat Google.

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    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

      https://marginalia-search.com/

      workshopshed@mastodon.scotW This user is from outside of this forum
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      workshopshed@mastodon.scot
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      #80

      @eliasulrich Nice, works for Workshopshed 😉

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      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

        https://marginalia-search.com/

        stepheneb@ruby.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        stepheneb@ruby.social
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        #81

        @eliasulrich

        Cool! Searching for my name was fun: “Stephen Bannasch”. It helps that my name is unusual.

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        • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

          "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

          It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

          It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

          What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

          The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

          There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

          It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

          https://marginalia-search.com/

          mbirth@social.mbirth.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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          mbirth@social.mbirth.uk
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #82

          @eliasulrich Also works great with #SearXNG.

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          • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

            "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

            It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

            It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

            What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

            The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

            There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

            It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

            https://marginalia-search.com/

            davebauerart@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            davebauerart@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #83

            @eliasulrich Looking good but. I searched for my name and I found some obscure forums I was on but not my web site (yet..) Still this is exactly what we need.

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            • devonkiwi@mastodonapp.ukD devonkiwi@mastodonapp.uk

              @eliasulrich Why won't they let us have nice things?
              "The search engine is currently under being hit so aggressively by bots it's interfering with the ability to serve regular search traffic. Emergency anti-scraping measures are enabled. Sorry about the inconvenience."

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              dheadshot@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #84

              @Devonkiwi
              To be fair, some of those bots could be the fedi hug of death as every mastodon (and forks) instance loads a preview of the page to accompany this now-viral toot?
              @eliasulrich

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              • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                https://marginalia-search.com/

                plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.caP This user is from outside of this forum
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                plzupgrademe@fedi.txw.ca
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                #85
                @eliasulrich beautiful name for it
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                • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

                  @joepie91 @Kyebr @miramarmike @eliasulrich

                  EU funding is kinda all over the map, but I've gotten some of it at least. There's generally a problem with a lot of big talkers and not a lot of actual doers in this space. Actually having something to show has made finding funding surprisingly easy.

                  falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  falcennial@mastodon.social
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                  #86

                  @marginalia words to pay the bills by 🤌💪

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                  • miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM miramarmike@cloudisland.nz

                    @eliasulrich not very good though, hopefully it gets better.

                    I did a search for my name as I have had a blog for over 20 years, didn't come up.

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                    ericmacknight@mstdn.ca
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #87

                    @miramarmike @eliasulrich

                    Mine came up right away; just searched for my name.

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                    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                      https://marginalia-search.com/

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                      energisch_@troet.cafe
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #88

                      @eliasulrich Thanks for this link, already tried out - wonderful, you really get text heavy stuff 😉

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                      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                        https://marginalia-search.com/

                        undead@masto.hackers.townU This user is from outside of this forum
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                        undead@masto.hackers.town
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #89

                        @eliasulrich

                        I used Marginalia Search to look up big butts, and I cannot lie, I like that the first result is a Wikipedia entry on Big Butt Mountain, and the second entry was a blog page about Sir-Mix-Alot's history with the song and the IRS.

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                        • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                          "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                          It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                          It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                          What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                          The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                          There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                          It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                          https://marginalia-search.com/

                          inarticulatequilter@mastodon.artI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          inarticulatequilter@mastodon.art
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #90

                          @eliasulrich I used to try to do that thing where you put two words into Google trying to get zero results. Managed it one time! This makes me nostalgic for those times

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                          • wraptile@fosstodon.orgW wraptile@fosstodon.org

                            @eliasulrich yet another example of a good project being put to an early grave due to engineer inability to name things.

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                            slyborg@ohai.social
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                            #91

                            @wraptile >posting this on “Mastodon”

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                            • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                              "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                              It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                              It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                              What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                              The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                              There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                              It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                              https://marginalia-search.com/

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                              hayesstw@c.im
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #92

                              @eliasulrich

                              I tried it out with the title of one of my books "enchanted grove" and it came up with this -- not bad:

                              https://www.meetnewbooks.com/new-exciting-book/1232
                              #marginalia #searchengine

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                              • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                https://marginalia-search.com/

                                paulmasson@mathstodon.xyzP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                paulmasson@mathstodon.xyz
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                                #93

                                @eliasulrich great idea but not there yet

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                                • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                  "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                  It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                  It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                  What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                  The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                  There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                  It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                  https://marginalia-search.com/

                                  firesphere@cloudisland.nzF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  firesphere@cloudisland.nz
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                                  #94

                                  @eliasulrich Heh, went to the "explore" page, and @glasnt was the first in the list!

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                                  • stepheneb@ruby.socialS stepheneb@ruby.social

                                    @eliasulrich

                                    Cool! Searching for my name was fun: “Stephen Bannasch”. It helps that my name is unusual.

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                                    paulmasson@mathstodon.xyz
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                                    #95

                                    @stepheneb @eliasulrich my name, Paul Masson, is always swamped by the cheap brandy company. Still is in this search engine, so not impressed.

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                                    • marginalia@mastodon.socialM marginalia@mastodon.social

                                      @joepie91 @miramarmike @eliasulrich

                                      Yeah I'd really like to see an ecosystem of independent search and discovery systems working together to formulate an alternative to Google, much more so than being a one stop shop Google replacement. That seems like a healthier future for the web if nothing else.

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                                      0x0@hachyderm.io
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                                      #96

                                      @marginalia
                                      So like #searx?
                                      @joepie91 @miramarmike @eliasulrich

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                                      • jaypeach53@mastodon.socialJ jaypeach53@mastodon.social

                                        @eliasulrich I just tried a search on Marginalia and DDG’s NoAI. The page is a WordPress blog. The Marginalia search found the page at index=20. DDG didn’t find the page after index=150. Looks like I’ll be searching using Marginalia before wasting my time on DDG’s “search”, which is Bing’s database.

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                                        0x0@hachyderm.io
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #97

                                        @jaypeach53
                                        The focus seems to be on that type of content, so unsurprising? And a good indicator.
                                        @eliasulrich

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                                        • leadinglines@mastodon.greenL leadinglines@mastodon.green

                                          @eliasulrich Is it good, is it bad? Is it vibe coded, is it a Honeypot? I don't know.

                                          What I do know is I searched for 'photography', then got stuck for 20 minutes on three pages from the top results that were all free of ads, dickovers and affiliate links, and they all smelled distinctly of human generated content. ☺️

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                                          0x0@hachyderm.io
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #98

                                          @leadinglines
                                          I guess @marginalia should rename it to RHG, for rabbit hole generator.
                                          @eliasulrich

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