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  • dotsie@mastodon.socialD dotsie@mastodon.social

    @gleick that account basically exists to farm engagement for ai outrage. They know damn well it’s not rogue.

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    #6

    @dotsie well i thought they engagement bait about anything tech ._

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    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

      Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

      thriftwicker@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @gleick They are trying to pull a Hegel problem - reaction - solution bit.

      Our shit is so poweful it has gone rogue!
      Oh my, no! Whatever can we do about it?!
      Let us fucking regulate our own shit so it doesn't happen again.
      Durrr okay!

      Fuckin burn em down.

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      • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

        Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

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        #8

        @gleick openai should pay for the usage and the outage. This is absolutely bonker.

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        • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

          Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

          tymwol@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @gleick waiting for „rogue Tesla killed a pedestrian, the person behind the wheel is shocked.”

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          • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

            Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

            abandonedamerica@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @gleick oh, weird, the programs are doing what people programmed them to do. Who could have predicted that. If one didn't know better they might assume that these are trial runs for future, larger scale attacks, but of course that's just silly to even suggest

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            • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

              Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

              jarjan@mederland.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @gleick
              If a script kiddy writes a script and uses it to hack a website or compromise a server, then the kid is responsible.
              Now an "AI" company wrote a complicated piece of software and used it to hack a website... So the company is responsible.

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              • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                jimmyb@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @gleick and absolutely no reason to believe they are in any way behaving other than exactly as designed.

                The tech dude Bros have checked where the boundaries are, found that effectively there were none where they expected them, and are now checking further.

                When one of Thiel’s autonomous weapons commits a massacre, will we call that ‘rogue’ as well?

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                  #13

                  @kielkontrovers @tymwol @gleick We even had that before so called self-driving. Using a car as a weapon is always punished less than using any other weapon, whether it’s for murder or intimidation.

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                  • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                    Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                    netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @gleick just like a car doesn't go "rogue", the systems didn't go "rogue" either.

                    • If I as an individual don"t get to escape #accountability & #ForeseeableConsequences, then an oberhyped and overvalued corporation doesn't get that either!

                    #counsequences #tevh #AIslop #malware

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                    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                      Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

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                      #15

                      @gleick Malware by design - IMHO the designers are responsible for the damage it causes and politics plus courts/attorneys are responsible to shut down the malware & designers and bring justice to their victims.

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                      • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                        Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

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                        #16

                        @gleick it's the same thing with car hitting pedestrians. It was the car that did it. The driver is not responsible.

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                        • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                          Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                          cockneylaurie@mastodonapp.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #17

                          @gleick I think that you are both making the same point. And the 66 and 99 (as we called them as kids) suggests to me it wasn't "nixcraft" using the term themselves but quoting the article?

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                          • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                            Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                            thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #18

                            @gleick They put rogue in quotation marks. Perhaps rethink this post?

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                            • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                              Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

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                              #19

                              @gleick They probably see wikis as a competitor now: why would people wait a minute for an LLM to reply to a question when they could just search for the answer on a wiki...

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                              • evelynoctavia@c.imE evelynoctavia@c.im

                                @dotsie well i thought they engagement bait about anything tech ._

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                                #20

                                @EvelynOctavia @dotsie
                                They bait about everything and anything that might spew up some sticky engagement.
                                And it works. They are master baiters.

                                Mostly about tech. Good practical info on Linux in the mix, and boosted toots from others, but the account always seeks maximum engagement on all posts.

                                I blocked them a long time ago.

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                                • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                                  Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                                  beemoh@mastodonapp.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @gleick "It went rogue and it hacked that system" has the same energy as "it went rogue and that's how it got stuck up there, doctor"

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                                  • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                                    @gleick They put rogue in quotation marks. Perhaps rethink this post?

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                                    #22

                                    @thejessiekirk @gleick
                                    Naaah. They are engagement baiters.

                                    https://mastodon.social/@dotsie/117391482877599517

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                                    • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                                      Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                                      randulo@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @gleick And the people responsible for runing them should be jailed like any other offense caused by carelessness.

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                                      • gleick@mas.toG gleick@mas.to

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117390294462413805

                                        Again: stop calling the malware “rogue.” These bots were designed, trained, prompted, and activated by humans at OpenAI. The fact that some of their behavior was unpredicted does not diminish OpenAI’s responsibility.

                                        edmcbane@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #24

                                        @gleick reminds me of this old Simpsons scene

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                                        • dec23k@mastodon.ieD dec23k@mastodon.ie

                                          @thejessiekirk @gleick
                                          Naaah. They are engagement baiters.

                                          https://mastodon.social/@dotsie/117391482877599517

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                                          #25

                                          @dec23k Nah? They *did*, in fact, put rogue in quotes. So... yah, actually. Please don't lie. @gleick

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