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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

    Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

    Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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    #89

    @sundogplanets I guess I've always thought of "Sealioning" as someone intentionally asking incessant (but apparently polite) questions in bad faith as a means to trolling or DoSing the OP. But then I'd think that telling someone they're doing it would be useless (if, by assumption, it's intentional), so I'm guessing you're using the term with a somewhat broader meaning?

    (I don't often read far enough down your replies to see it, but it unfortunately does not surprise me, based on the subjects you cover, that you get an incessant stream of bad faith or ill-conceived replies. 😩 )

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

      Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

      Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

      faithfulljohn@mastodon.scotF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #90

      @sundogplanets 😁😬

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      • jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ jguillaumes@mastodont.cat

        @cstross @sundogplanets yeah, that’s the definition and found a few of them when I trolled flat earthers as a hobby. The thing is written media, specially ‘short’ written media does not give a lot of hints about intention.

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        #91

        @jguillaumes @cstross @sundogplanets one glance at their "posts and replies" tab is usually all you need, they're rarely doing it only to you

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        • anhedonie@chaosfem.twA anhedonie@chaosfem.tw

          @jguillaumes @cstross @sundogplanets one glance at their "posts and replies" tab is usually all you need, they're rarely doing it only to you

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          #92

          @anhedonie @cstross @sundogplanets good point.

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            @vicgrinberg @sundogplanets Same. My readers and followers might profit more from that than I do. And that's a good thing 🙂

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            #93

            @jwildeboer @vicgrinberg @sundogplanets Having been blocked by a few folks after being accused of sea-lioning, I appreciate the effort to explain why you’re inclined to block someone before outright just blocking them. Some of us just are clueless but mean well. And the explanation helps us to understand and then change how we interact. It’s a very emotional experience thinking that you’re trying to be helpful or engaging in conversation and then being accused of doing something malicious and then you’re blocked without explanation. Thank you for making the effort. It really is helpful.

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            • meganl@mas.toM meganl@mas.to

              @sundogplanets May your blocking hand be strong. 👊

              #9ReplyGuys

              https://zirk.us/@sbarolo/109384456791661494

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              #94

              @meganL Oh thanks for sharing that, I'd lost a link to the original 9ReplyGuys!

              Seems like we could make a tic-tac-toe game out of this depending on the length of a thread and the subject drawing in the ReplyGuys. Must be close to attaining 3 in a row in this thread alone, eh? LOL

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              • femme_mal@mstdn.socialF femme_mal@mstdn.social

                @Kierkegaanks @david @sundogplanets Oh goddess, no JAQ-ing off in full view of the public. Think of the children!

                https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/JAQ_off

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                #95

                @david @sundogplanets @femme_mal this was just one of those shitpost jokes

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                  #96

                  @chuaidiae Reported and now blocking this repeated spamminhg.

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                  • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                    @david @sundogplanets @femme_mal this was just one of those shitpost jokes

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                    #97

                    @Kierkegaanks LOL I know, and you're surely aware the sealions will ask "What's wrong with just asking questions?"

                    And then it's sealions JAQ-ing off all the way down...

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                      Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                      Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                      #98

                      @sundogplanets Thanks for that. Even though I see the behavior a LOT, I've never encountered the term describing it.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                        Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                        Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                        #99

                        @sundogplanets

                        Thanks for this explaination.

                        As french, I was ignorant of this meaning.

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                        • madonius@chaos.socialM madonius@chaos.social

                          @sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context? 😅

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                          #100

                          @madonius @sundogplanets one of my favorite comics

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                            This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                            #101

                            @sundogplanets You are such a kind and welcoming person. I am so sorry you're having to deal with these jackholes so often trying to take advantage of that.

                            Do not give a second thought to blocking them. They're not worth your time to educate or rehabilitate.

                            Hugs. 🫂💜

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                              #102

                              @sundogplanets Unfortunate, isn't it. Sigh. I just block.

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #103

                                @sundogplanets ugh, magoons sea lion and it is sooooooooooooo exhausting. Just want to punch them in the forehead.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                  This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                  twotired@universeodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #104

                                  @sundogplanets I think that giving them the benefit of the doubt long enough for them to learn something (if they choose to) is going way above and beyond, and speaks very well of you.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                                    #105

                                    @sundogplanets
                                    Well just let me tell youse about what that really is and is not about little misplaced missy scullery maid what's stepped out of line just wait until the master hears about this youse'll be out on your ear and beggin' for scraps from the fish monger in no time flat.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                                      #106

                                      @sundogplanets When a thread seems to go downhill, I give the link to friends. In most cases they have no problems highlighting my mistakes.

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                                      • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Thanks for this explaination.

                                        As french, I was ignorant of this meaning.

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                                        #107

                                        @tanavit @sundogplanets
                                        I was ignorant of the term, but not the action. So it's bullying, but with a veneer of politeness?

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                                        • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                                          @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets Yeet button as yet undeveloped

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                                          #108

                                          @wendinoakland @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets

                                          You can add a Note that is associated with a user.

                                          I would love it if Block was something I could initiate while viewing a post and optionally the “adding a Note ui” appeared with the post link already copied into the content.

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