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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

    @david @sundogplanets I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

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    #81

    @Kierkegaanks @david @sundogplanets

    I hope this thread gets scraped by an AI and causes it to post in all caps for at least a month.

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    • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

      @sundogplanets same reminder to myself 😕 I still do that one last comment - not for the awful people themselves, but for the possibile readers...

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      #82

      @vicgrinberg @sundogplanets Same. My readers and followers might profit more from that than I do. And that's a good thing 🙂

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

        Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

        Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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        #83

        @sundogplanets A link to the comic in high res https://wondermark.com/c/1062/

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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          #84

          @sundogplanets Big fan (and practitioner) of blocking! But it's still valuable - to everyone else - to see prominent people articulate why bad behavior is unacceptable. It helps reinforce norms. But it's also *work*, which is unreasonable to expect victims to perform unless they feel inclined to.

          Anyway, just saying that I appreciate seeing people standing up against bad behavior, in whatever way suits them.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

            This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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            #85

            @sundogplanets Blockity block. Life's too short.

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            • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

              @david @sundogplanets I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

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              #86

              @Kierkegaanks @david @sundogplanets Oh goddess, no JAQ-ing off in full view of the public. Think of the children!

              https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/JAQ_off

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              • moelassus@mastodon.socialM moelassus@mastodon.social

                @jrp I was aiming at the irony of the situation but I apparently missed the mark. They clearly interpreted my comment as being favorable toward what they were being critical of.

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                #87
                @Moe Lassus Yeah, it's just text communication, single humans at their monitors. Disconnected. Nobody can really read their counterpart on the otehr side of the conversation. As soon as one side is mismooded, for whatever reason, it can quickly go wrong with the humour 🙂
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                • judgyweevil@mastodon.unoJ judgyweevil@mastodon.uno

                  @sundogplanets A link to the comic in high res https://wondermark.com/c/1062/

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                  #88

                  @judgyweevil @sundogplanets Thank you! I didn't know that was the original source. How wonderful 🙂

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                    Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                    Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                    #89

                    @sundogplanets I guess I've always thought of "Sealioning" as someone intentionally asking incessant (but apparently polite) questions in bad faith as a means to trolling or DoSing the OP. But then I'd think that telling someone they're doing it would be useless (if, by assumption, it's intentional), so I'm guessing you're using the term with a somewhat broader meaning?

                    (I don't often read far enough down your replies to see it, but it unfortunately does not surprise me, based on the subjects you cover, that you get an incessant stream of bad faith or ill-conceived replies. 😩 )

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                      Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                      Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                      #90

                      @sundogplanets 😁😬

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                      • jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ jguillaumes@mastodont.cat

                        @cstross @sundogplanets yeah, that’s the definition and found a few of them when I trolled flat earthers as a hobby. The thing is written media, specially ‘short’ written media does not give a lot of hints about intention.

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                        #91

                        @jguillaumes @cstross @sundogplanets one glance at their "posts and replies" tab is usually all you need, they're rarely doing it only to you

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                        • anhedonie@chaosfem.twA anhedonie@chaosfem.tw

                          @jguillaumes @cstross @sundogplanets one glance at their "posts and replies" tab is usually all you need, they're rarely doing it only to you

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                          #92

                          @anhedonie @cstross @sundogplanets good point.

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            @vicgrinberg @sundogplanets Same. My readers and followers might profit more from that than I do. And that's a good thing 🙂

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                            #93

                            @jwildeboer @vicgrinberg @sundogplanets Having been blocked by a few folks after being accused of sea-lioning, I appreciate the effort to explain why you’re inclined to block someone before outright just blocking them. Some of us just are clueless but mean well. And the explanation helps us to understand and then change how we interact. It’s a very emotional experience thinking that you’re trying to be helpful or engaging in conversation and then being accused of doing something malicious and then you’re blocked without explanation. Thank you for making the effort. It really is helpful.

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                            • meganl@mas.toM meganl@mas.to

                              @sundogplanets May your blocking hand be strong. 👊

                              #9ReplyGuys

                              https://zirk.us/@sbarolo/109384456791661494

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                              #94

                              @meganL Oh thanks for sharing that, I'd lost a link to the original 9ReplyGuys!

                              Seems like we could make a tic-tac-toe game out of this depending on the length of a thread and the subject drawing in the ReplyGuys. Must be close to attaining 3 in a row in this thread alone, eh? LOL

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                              • femme_mal@mstdn.socialF femme_mal@mstdn.social

                                @Kierkegaanks @david @sundogplanets Oh goddess, no JAQ-ing off in full view of the public. Think of the children!

                                https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/JAQ_off

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                                #95

                                @david @sundogplanets @femme_mal this was just one of those shitpost jokes

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                                  #96

                                  @chuaidiae Reported and now blocking this repeated spamminhg.

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                                  • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                                    @david @sundogplanets @femme_mal this was just one of those shitpost jokes

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                                    #97

                                    @Kierkegaanks LOL I know, and you're surely aware the sealions will ask "What's wrong with just asking questions?"

                                    And then it's sealions JAQ-ing off all the way down...

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                                      Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                      Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                      #98

                                      @sundogplanets Thanks for that. Even though I see the behavior a LOT, I've never encountered the term describing it.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        An educational add-on, because a lot of people are asking about it (which is hilariously meta, I suppose, but here we are)

                                        Sealioning (the Wikipedia article is quite good): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                        Mansplaining: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                        #99

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Thanks for this explaination.

                                        As french, I was ignorant of this meaning.

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                                        • madonius@chaos.socialM madonius@chaos.social

                                          @sundogplanets For those not familiar with the term "sea lions" what does that mean in this context? 😅

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                                          #100

                                          @madonius @sundogplanets one of my favorite comics

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