how to label #vegan cafés in #openstreetmap ?
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how to label #vegan cafés in #openstreetmap ?
if a café is 100% #vegan, should it still be labelled #vegetarian, like café kaf in this screenshot from #organicmaps ?
all the dishes and cakes at the café are accessible to vegetarians (because they are vegan), but there are no #nonvegan #vegetarian options, e.g. with cheese from breast milk from cow or goat or pig.
some vegans prefer fully vegan cafés, so should the #vegetarian label be removed here? (and for other similar places?)
wrote for 15 dage siden sidst redigeret af@pelle Well, if it is vegan, it is also vegetarian. Just because it doesn't offer full range of ingredients that particular vegetarian might like, doesn't mean it ain't vegetarian.
Thus, `diet:vegan=yes` implies `diet:vegetarian=yes`, so the latter does not need to be specified (but it is also not an error if it is specified).
I were adding diet tags, for such vegan-only case I'd add just the `diet:vegan=only` tag, to encode most amount of information.
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@pelle Well, if it is vegan, it is also vegetarian. Just because it doesn't offer full range of ingredients that particular vegetarian might like, doesn't mean it ain't vegetarian.
Thus, `diet:vegan=yes` implies `diet:vegetarian=yes`, so the latter does not need to be specified (but it is also not an error if it is specified).
I were adding diet tags, for such vegan-only case I'd add just the `diet:vegan=only` tag, to encode most amount of information.
wrote for 15 dage siden sidst redigeret afmakes sense. i downloaded #vespucci and i can see the tagging options there, but they're not visible in #organicmaps.
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makes sense. i downloaded #vespucci and i can see the tagging options there, but they're not visible in #organicmaps.
wrote for 15 dage siden sidst redigeret af@pelle Yes, #Organicmaps had to sacrifice some versatility in order to remain very simple to use (as its target audience are not expected to know what "OSM tags" even are - most of them are not even editors and just use the map in read-only mode for routing etc).
#Vespucci however is made specifically for OSM mappers (and more experienced mappers especially), so it can offer full power of #OpenStreetMap to you.
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makes sense. i downloaded #vespucci and i can see the tagging options there, but they're not visible in #organicmaps.
wrote for 15 dage siden sidst redigeret af@pelle for those kind of questions, also always check the wiki, which:
- might provide more details on such nuances
- tells you more about all the tagging options, which cannot be all integrated into/maintained by all the editors
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:diet:vegan -
@pelle Yes, #Organicmaps had to sacrifice some versatility in order to remain very simple to use (as its target audience are not expected to know what "OSM tags" even are - most of them are not even editors and just use the map in read-only mode for routing etc).
#Vespucci however is made specifically for OSM mappers (and more experienced mappers especially), so it can offer full power of #OpenStreetMap to you.
wrote for 14 dage siden sidst redigeret af@mnalis @pelle I really don't think organic maps should have a built-in editor, for several reasons.
- There are hundreds of bugs and feature requests that could be closed.
- The very limited dev team would have one less moving part to worry about, and could refocus their efforts elsewhere.
- Streetcomplete, everydoor, and gomap! can all do more than OM-editor. Organic Maps could redirect to these alternatives, to make editing a bit convenient still.
- Notes created by organic maps are hard to solve because users often don't provide enough info. In my experience, streetcomplete notes suffer less from this.
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@mnalis @pelle I really don't think organic maps should have a built-in editor, for several reasons.
- There are hundreds of bugs and feature requests that could be closed.
- The very limited dev team would have one less moving part to worry about, and could refocus their efforts elsewhere.
- Streetcomplete, everydoor, and gomap! can all do more than OM-editor. Organic Maps could redirect to these alternatives, to make editing a bit convenient still.
- Notes created by organic maps are hard to solve because users often don't provide enough info. In my experience, streetcomplete notes suffer less from this.
wrote for 14 dage siden sidst redigeret afi use both #streetcomplete and #organicmaps for edits. sometimes a shop is closed and i want to correct it, yet it doesn't show up as a quest in #streetcomplete, so then it's nice to be able to correct it in #organicmaps.
you can write bad notes regardless of which app you use.
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@pelle Yes, #Organicmaps had to sacrifice some versatility in order to remain very simple to use (as its target audience are not expected to know what "OSM tags" even are - most of them are not even editors and just use the map in read-only mode for routing etc).
#Vespucci however is made specifically for OSM mappers (and more experienced mappers especially), so it can offer full power of #OpenStreetMap to you.
wrote for 14 dage siden sidst redigeret af pelle@veganism.social@mnalis i think i'll ask if #organicmaps can allow searching for `diet:vegan=only` places. thanks for the help.
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i use both #streetcomplete and #organicmaps for edits. sometimes a shop is closed and i want to correct it, yet it doesn't show up as a quest in #streetcomplete, so then it's nice to be able to correct it in #organicmaps.
you can write bad notes regardless of which app you use.
wrote for 14 dage siden sidst redigeret afIn #streetcomplete, you can tap a POI in the shop overlay and then specify it as closed, by tapping the three buttons.
That feature is not exclusive to #organicMaps .
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In #streetcomplete, you can tap a POI in the shop overlay and then specify it as closed, by tapping the three buttons.
That feature is not exclusive to #organicMaps .
wrote for 14 dage siden sidst redigeret af@LinusWeidickFrische ok but say they change their opening hours then
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@pelle for those kind of questions, also always check the wiki, which:
- might provide more details on such nuances
- tells you more about all the tagging options, which cannot be all integrated into/maintained by all the editors
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:diet:veganwrote for 14 dage siden sidst redigeret af@eliasp thanks for that link. helpful info.
i tried to look before but i only found this wiki page which was less detailed: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q230
> diet:vegan, Whether the establishment offers vegan products.now i wonder whether it's possible to actually search for these #vegan only restaurants somehow, in #organicmaps or #osmand, or whether i should kindly suggest it be implemented ...
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how to label #vegan cafés in #openstreetmap ?
if a café is 100% #vegan, should it still be labelled #vegetarian, like café kaf in this screenshot from #organicmaps ?
all the dishes and cakes at the café are accessible to vegetarians (because they are vegan), but there are no #nonvegan #vegetarian options, e.g. with cheese from breast milk from cow or goat or pig.
some vegans prefer fully vegan cafés, so should the #vegetarian label be removed here? (and for other similar places?)
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wrote for 13 dage siden sidst redigeret af
@ambiguous_yelp thanks!
someone else pointed me to the OSM wiki where i can see there's a `vegan=only` tag.
https://mastodon.social/@eliasp/114227346253844520
it can be edited in #vespucci. as far as i can tell, #organicmaps and #osmand don't currently display this info so i will open an issue to kindly ask about it.